newTIboyRob Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Hi, I've had an 800XL with a non-functioning space bar for quite some time now. I don't feel comfortable opening her up myself, particularly due to that tenuous attached ribbon cable inside. Unlikely I could fix it anyway; someone who knows what they are doing is the key here. But if it is just a (relatively) simple fix, can you give me an idea, cost-wise in a range, of what it would be to open it up and tinker? It might be nothing, or a very cheap part, etc but I didn't want to spend an arm and a leg on it. I have to keep in my that no one in my area fixes these, so I would I have to ship out from the east coast, (but that shouldn't be more than about $10 USPS ground each way.) So at this stage, just looking for some general repair cost ranges. Any thoughts? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeblebrox Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 If you find that there is no-one in the States then there is of course FlashJazzCat (Jon) here in the UK who offers a sevice and also does regular fixes on his YT channel. https://atari8.co.uk/hardware/upgrades-and-repairs/ TBH if it is just the keyboard at fault you might as well just source a working replacement donor keyboard from an 800XL or 600XL and swap em out. It's dead easy to swap em out. Can you post some pics of the machine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+kheller2 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Where are you on the East coast, and what version 800XL keyboard do you think you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeblebrox Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 2 hours ago, kheller2 said: Where are you on the East coast, and what version 800XL keyboard do you think you have? Also @newTIboyRob This might help but you will need to open up the casing, (it's dead easy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TZJB Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 If you determine that the keyboard is of the mechanical type with microswitches (types 1, 2 or 3), you may be able to resurrect the key by operating it continually as corrosion can prevent correct switch contact. Simply operating the key 100 times or so may restore normal operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newTIboyRob Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 Good suggestion. I will look into that, thank you. It was kind of strange like that.... it was working, and then, poof, it wasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeblebrox Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, newTIboyRob said: Good suggestion. I will look into that, thank you. It was kind of strange like that.... it was working, and then, poof, it wasn't. Being 40 year old vintage computers anything can go any anytime very suddenly The great thing about the 800XL and 600XL lines is there are several compatible keyboards so you can always source and swap em out. For the non membrane versions you can swap out individual key switches from donor XL keyboards. For the membrane type ones there are new membranes available as replacements. Also try tzgb's suggestion. I've also resurrected keys the same way but in addition I've sprayed it with contact cleaner and pressed it many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdivancic Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Any where near Maine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newTIboyRob Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 Actually New York. When I can, I will try Tzgb's suggestion. Maybe just taking in out and putting it back and hitting it like 100 times may get it work again. It was fluky how it just "went" like that out of nowhere after working fine when I was testing it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TZJB Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 8 hours ago, newTIboyRob said: Actually New York. When I can, I will try Tzgb's suggestion. Maybe just taking in out and putting it back and hitting it like 100 times may get it work again. It was fluky how it just "went" like that out of nowhere after working fine when I was testing it out. If the key suddenly stopped working, it just occured to me that it may be be worth checking the solder joints, which may have broken and will need re-making. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 yes, could be broken leaf or switch constantly touching or otherwise... check by eye and meter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newTIboyRob Posted August 14, 2023 Author Share Posted August 14, 2023 If anyone still is visiting this thread, check out my updated thread "shift key the culprit". Turns out it wasn't the space bar after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeblebrox Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 See my comments in your new thread. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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