DEANJIMMY Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, MrChickenz said: Here is Medieval Mayhem debug version It dumps at 16k but 32k would be correct... My cart does dump right and plays fine, only the music is awful... 20240217_223855.mp4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Looks like the FPS is in the 40s when there’s a load issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, DEANJIMMY said: It dumps at 16k but 32k would be correct... My cart does dump right and plays fine, only the music is awful... 20240217_223855.mp4 How is it dumping different if we are both on the same dumper.9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laladien Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, DEANJIMMY said: It dumps at 16k but 32k would be correct... My cart does dump right and plays fine, only the music is awful... 20240217_223855.mp4 Are you using the .9 dumper? I’m using that and rev2 of the experimental firmware and I can’t even get it to load at all (halves the dump, so I never get the full 32k). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariYMás009 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 2 hours ago, DEANJIMMY said: It seems to play right after ET starts🤔 20240227_215135.mp4 Didn't you notice how the first notes are ommited? The first notes doesen't sound at all, you can see (well, listen) It on your own video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) IMG_2320.MOV E.T. NTSC Seems fine for me! Edited February 27 by MrChickenz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 (edited) @DEANJIMMY Your E.T. Looks a little green in the gills! Lol! Edited February 27 by MrChickenz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEANJIMMY Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 6 hours ago, AtariYMás009 said: Didn't you notice how the first notes are ommited? The first notes doesen't sound at all, you can see (well, listen) It on your own video. Well, I don't as I did not listen to it for years. But I am sure you are right, so the vid can be taken as a proof of problem😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEANJIMMY Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 5 hours ago, MrChickenz said: @DEANJIMMY Your E.T. Looks a little green in the gills! Lol! I guess it was never as blue like your NTSC version 🤔 But the camera does not take it correctly. Edited February 28 by DEANJIMMY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEANJIMMY Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 7 hours ago, MrChickenz said: How is it dumping different if we are both on the same dumper.9 Hmm, @raz0red @MrChickenz Did your Medieval ever work before? Which dumper? What about Juno first? My Medieval dumps on 1.1.0.9 with 32k. Got confused some how. My Juno first dumped only once on the very first dumper. Edited February 28 by DEANJIMMY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEANJIMMY Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 8 hours ago, MrChickenz said: How is it dumping different if we are both on the same dumper.9 Right, it is related to our personal copy of cart, I guess. The chances to fail just seem to be higher on 1.1.0.9. My Medieval dumps fine on any dumper, currently 1.1.0.9 with 32k, only the music sounds bad (on any SW and dumper FW). My Juno First dumped fine only once on the factory load and never worked again. I put 1.1x-r2 debug on and used different dumpers. It dumps only half of it. You can keep your debug 1.1x-r2 load to see the size of the dump and then test Medieval and Juno First with dumper 1.0.0.0 and 1.1.0.9 to compare. Maybe my Medival is less finicky than yours but my Juno First is a prima donna🤔 Edited February 28 by DEANJIMMY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 6 hours ago, DEANJIMMY said: Hmm, @raz0red @MrChickenz Did your Medieval ever work before? Which dumper? What about Juno first? My Medieval dumps on 1.1.0.9 with 32k. Got confused some how. My Juno first dumped only once on the very first dumper. I know Medieval Mayhem worked because I was playing multiplayer when I first received the unit! That being said that was the first Atari 2600+. When I received my second unit it worked I tested but not sure when it stopped working. I updated that one to the latest firmware and dumper and didn’t test that again until the experimental firmware. I know Juno first worked at some point but I don’t play it on the 2600+ because it doesn’t support AudioVox Edited February 28 by MrChickenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 4 hours ago, DEANJIMMY said: Right, it is related to our personal copy of cart, I guess. The chances to fail just seem to be higher on 1.1.0.9. My Medieval dumps fine on any dumper, currently 1.1.0.9 with 32k, only the music sounds bad (on any SW and dumper FW). My Juno First dumped fine only once on the factory load and never worked again. I put 1.1x-r2 debug on and used different dumpers. It dumps only half of it. You can keep your debug 1.1x-r2 load to see the size of the dump and then test Medieval and Juno First with dumper 1.0.0.0 and 1.1.0.9 to compare. Maybe my Medival is less finicky than yours but my Juno First is a prima donna🤔 True, I will try that and it may have been out of the box that Juno First and Medieval Mayhem worked! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac-Man Senior Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 @KainXavier I recently added the check of my non paddle games (espescially PAL games) for the experimental firmware. Frogger keeps being mixed. The surprise was Video Pinball which is no longer working (same cart was working with 1.0). Bowling has some stutter during the game. The rest was ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) @DEANJIMMY Ok so with 1.1x-r2 experimental standard and 01.01.00.02 dumper. Medieval Mayhem WORKS! Circus Convoy WORKS! Juno First WORKS! Fall Down WORKS! Aardvark WORKS! Robot City WORKS! Frenzy WORKS! California Games still WORKS! Tunnel Runner still WORKS! Tac Scan still WORKS! Srategey X NO LONGER LOADS Goes right to Load Failed Time Pilot NO LONGER LOADS Goes to black screen Robot Tank NO LONGER LOADS Goes to stripe screen I’m not uploading screenshots because I’m on standard experimental firmware. I will install the debug version and upload some screenshots So I gained 3 and lost 3 I’m Even Stevens! Edited February 28 by MrChickenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 51 minutes ago, Pac-Man Senior said: @KainXavier I recently added the check of my non paddle games (espescially PAL games) for the experimental firmware. Frogger keeps being mixed. The surprise was Video Pinball which is no longer working (same cart was working with 1.0). Bowling has some stutter during the game. The rest was ok. NTSC Frogger works fine. Video Pinball works fine. I do not have bowling to test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEANJIMMY Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 35 minutes ago, MrChickenz said: @DEANJIMMY Ok so with 1.1x-r2 experimental standard and 01.01.00.02 dumper. Medieval Mayhem WORKS! Circus Convoy WORKS! Juno First WORKS! Fall Down WORKS! Aardvark WORKS! Robot City WORKS! Frenzy WORKS! California Games still WORKS! Tunnel Runner still WORKS! Tac Scan still WORKS! Srategey X NO LONGER LOADS Goes right to Load Failed Time Pilot NO LONGER LOADS Goes to black screen Robot Tank NO LONGER LOADS Goes to stripe screen I’m not uploading screenshots because I’m on standard experimental firmware. I will install the debug version and upload some screenshots So I gained 3 and lost 3 I’m Even Stevens! Thanks, I will test Juno First with an older dumper in a couple of hours. As your Medieval runs now, how does the title music sounds like? In my case it sounds distorted. Fades in and out like a compressor pushing down the volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, DEANJIMMY said: Thanks, I will test Juno First with an older dumper in a couple of hours. As your Medieval runs now, how does the title music sounds like? In my case it sounds distorted. Fades in and out like a compressor pushing down the volume. IMG_2332.MOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 1.1x-r2 experimental debug and 01.01.00.02 dumper. Strategy X loaded 2 times with the debug version but it managed to show FPS 136.02 one time. First picture Strategy X. Robot Tank loaded Stripes. Time Pilot loaded black screen. Hopefully @raz0red gets some useful info out of this! Edited February 28 by MrChickenz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) UPDATE STRATEGY X. Possibly a cartridge issue! After inserting the cartridge I pull it out a tad and I mean a tad! And it works every time! This has nothing to do with the 2600+. Even on original hardware there has been a cartridge or two that I had to do this with to get it to load, I’ve inserted Strategy X at least 20 x this way now and it loads every time Edited February 28 by MrChickenz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 22 hours ago, Laladien said: I’m using the same FW and current dumper and my copy of Circus Convoy is working. No issue. Are you using the dumper version ending in .9? Is your Circus Convoy NTSC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 21 hours ago, John Stamos Mullet said: Circus Convoy is working here on the r2 experimental firmware. My question. Do dumper versions perform differently on different units? Circus Convoy works with dumper 01.01.00.02 for mine. @John Stamos Mullet Circus Convoy works with dumper 01.01.00.09. Mine is NTSC @John Stamos Mulletis PAL correct? Is the difference NTSC Vs PAL or is the difference in the machine? Edited February 28 by MrChickenz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEANJIMMY Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 3 hours ago, MrChickenz said: @DEANJIMMY Ok so with 1.1x-r2 experimental standard and 01.01.00.02 dumper. Medieval Mayhem WORKS! Circus Convoy WORKS! Juno First WORKS! Fall Down WORKS! Aardvark WORKS! Robot City WORKS! Frenzy WORKS! California Games still WORKS! Tunnel Runner still WORKS! Tac Scan still WORKS! Srategey X NO LONGER LOADS Goes right to Load Failed Time Pilot NO LONGER LOADS Goes to black screen Robot Tank NO LONGER LOADS Goes to stripe screen I’m not uploading screenshots because I’m on standard experimental firmware. I will install the debug version and upload some screenshots So I gained 3 and lost 3 I’m Even Stevens! My Medieval starts on any dumper. Your sound is much better than mine. Juno First always fails. On 1.1.0.9 it dumps 16k and on any older dumper just 4k🙃 Did not find any issue with Bowling NTSC. Time Pilot needs of course 1.1.0.9 to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 24 minutes ago, DEANJIMMY said: My Medieval starts on any dumper. Your sound is much better than mine. Juno First always fails. On 1.1.0.9 it dumps 16k and on any older dumper just 4k🙃 Did not find any issue with Bowling NTSC. Time Pilot needs of course 1.1.0.9 to start. I do not have bowling to test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChickenz Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) 36 minutes ago, DEANJIMMY said: My Medieval starts on any dumper. Your sound is much better than mine. Juno First always fails. On 1.1.0.9 it dumps 16k and on any older dumper just 4k🙃 Did not find any issue with Bowling NTSC. Time Pilot needs of course 1.1.0.9 to start. Is your Circus Convoy Medieval Mayhem Juno First. NTSC or PAL? dumper 1.1.0.4 is no longer available to download. I never downloaded that one. Edited February 28 by MrChickenz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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