OldSchoolRetroGamer Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite.pies Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 That's very interesting. I wonder if any other controllers will unlock the games, as I don't have the VCS joystick, and I'm not too keen on buying yet another controller just to unlock 2 games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolRetroGamer Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 IF any mod / admin ( @CPUWIZ @Albert ) could fix my title, my editing window has expired, It should read "YEP! Hidden Games on the 400Mini! by GenXGrownUp" THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.Fraenkel Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 12 hours ago, infinite.pies said: That's very interesting. I wonder if any other controllers will unlock the games, as I don't have the VCS joystick, and I'm not too keen on buying yet another controller just to unlock 2 games! I discovered it by chance, it also works with PS5 and PS4 controllers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 you could add the games to a USB stick anyway, so other than not being shown in the carousel it's not a biggy IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifthPlayer Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) 5 hours ago, mimo said: you could add the games to a USB stick anyway, so other than not being shown in the carousel it's not a biggy IMO Castle Crisis is a game sold here on Atari Age ($30), so its inclusion on The400 is some real value. Edited March 28 by FifthPlayer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 22 minutes ago, FifthPlayer said: Castle Crisis is a game sold here on Atari Age ($30), so its inclusion on The400 is some real value. I thought the ROM was available? Anyway I have the cart if I ever feel the need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 5 minutes ago, mimo said: I thought the ROM was available? The ROM is available; but what I think he means is, for it to be included in a commercial product like this, there must have been some licensing involved, which should have meant exchange of funds for the developer ( @Bryan ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Ah, I see. Fair enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifthPlayer Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 7 minutes ago, MrFish said: The ROM is available; but what I think he means is, for it to be included in a commercial product like this, there must have been some licensing involved, which should have meant exchange of funds for the developer ( @Bryan ). I wasn't aware the ROM was available, but thank you for bringing up this excellent point about licensing revenue for the developer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 4 minutes ago, FifthPlayer said: I wasn't aware the ROM was available... Yeah, he's always made the ROM available for download for the 8-bit computers and 5200; he just charged for physical copies (and a modest price at that). I imagine he would want to charge a fee to Atari for it to appear on their commercial product, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifthPlayer Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, MrFish said: Yeah, he's always made the ROM available for download for the 8-bit computers and 5200; he just charged for physical copies (and a modest price at that). I imagine he would want to charge a fee to Atari for it to appear on their commercial product, though. Yes, and it should also be pointed out this is one the good things that has come out of Atari's acquisition of AtariAge. I'm surprised Atari didn't negotiate to rename the game "Warlords" since they own the rights to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 55 minutes ago, FifthPlayer said: I'm surprised Atari didn't negotiate to rename the game "Warlords" since they own the rights to it. Yeah, I suppose. People can see what it is as soon as they start it up, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucbanzai Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) 10 hours ago, mimo said: you could add the games to a USB stick anyway, so other than not being shown in the carousel it's not a biggy IMO not sure that's fully true. On the Video the hidden games were able to use the paddle controls on the controller but when using games on his USB stick he could only use the stick to move. Edited March 28 by Bucbanzai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite.pies Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 There's a comment made by someone on the above Youtube video saying you can plug in almost any USB controller apart from the bundled controller to access the 2 hidden games, so that sounds promising. Hopefully, I'll just be able to use one of the controllers supplied with the A500 mini or the C64 maxi. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonreddick Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/28/2024 at 12:03 PM, MrFish said: The ROM is available; but what I think he means is, for it to be included in a commercial product like this, there must have been some licensing involved, which should have meant exchange of funds for the developer ( @Bryan ). The author of Castle Crisis commented on my video linked above. He said he knew it would included somehow but hidden, and wasn't sure how long it would take to be discovered. Not very long! 😁 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 4 minutes ago, jonreddick said: The author of Castle Crisis commented on my video linked above. He said he knew it would included somehow but hidden, and wasn't sure how long it would take to be discovered. Not very long! 😁 It's a great game: best version of Warlords available for any 8-bit system. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin42 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 It mentions Super Breakout and Castle Crisis on the Legal Info page, so I guess there was some hint they were there. (I have not plugged in my VCS controller to "activate" them) At skimming the list I didn't see any other obvious inclusions, unless I'm missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skel28 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 On 3/29/2024 at 12:25 AM, infinite.pies said: There's a comment made by someone on the above Youtube video saying you can plug in almost any USB controller apart from the bundled controller to access the 2 hidden games, so that sounds promising. Hopefully, I'll just be able to use one of the controllers supplied with the A500 mini or the C64 maxi. A500 pad unlocks them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean_1970 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) The coolest part is that if you reboot without a second controller, the games are hidden again - you know I only play single player games with two controllers connected 🤪 On the positive the input using a PS4 thumb stick was surprisingly well-calibrated (given there’s no controller menu for built-in games I guess it would have to be) - I actually didn’t mind playing Super Breakout with it. Can’t say the same for Flasback Classics or Atari 50 on my PS5 and those games have analogue config menus! Edited April 1 by Sean_1970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrams2000 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 On 3/28/2024 at 5:08 AM, mimo said: you could add the games to a USB stick anyway, so other than not being shown in the carousel it's not a biggy IMO The games off USB do not work with the spinner on the VCS stick though. It is only when you access the 2 games off the carousel. That is the only time you get to use your stick/paddle on the VCS controller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanner Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) Do they show with any analogue controller, I got them to show by plugin in the Atari2600 into THE400 Mini and having the Atari Paddles plugged in to its Atari joystick port 1 (DB9), you have to put the Atari2600 Plus into update dumper mode, Color on B/W and press and hold Reset switch while turn it on, it then thinks its THEGamepad, you can see it on a PC `Setup a game controller on PC`.... Edited April 18 by Spanner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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