Tempest Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 What does everyone make of this? I found this hidden in the Impossible Mission code: Swordfish Asparagus Artichoke Crocodile Alligator Butterfly Cormorant Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Yeah, those are the passwords to get into Elvin's lab. Unfortunately, they can't be entered manually so they aren't much good. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 19, 2004 Author Share Posted January 19, 2004 Ahhh that would explain it. I also found hidden code in several other 7800 games, including several funny quotes inside Klax which I'm not sure are displayed during the game. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Do you mean like "Remember to blink your eyes occasionally" and "Buy low sell high" and "I'm your PAL...ATARI, THE MOTHER OF ALL VIDEOGAME COMPANIES"? Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 19, 2004 Author Share Posted January 19, 2004 Do you mean like "Remember to blink your eyes occasionally" and "Buy low sell high" and "I'm your PAL...ATARI, THE MOTHER OF ALL VIDEOGAME COMPANIES"? Yep. I also saw the ending game text which I've never seen before. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Yep. I also saw the ending game text which I've never seen before. Tempest I guess you just need to beat the game then. Speaking as one of the few people (or only person?) that has beaten both the PAL and NTSC version of 7800 Impossible Mission, I would have to say that the ending screen isn't very exciting. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 I thought the reason nobody else had beaten the NTSC version of Impossible Mission was because it was flawed, and the clues needed to finish the game were put into inaccesible places? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 I thought the reason nobody else had beaten the NTSC version of Impossible Mission was because it was flawed, and the clues needed to finish the game were put into inaccesible places? For the standard NTSC version that is correct, but I was one of the testers for the hacked/fixed version. Which, alas, hasn't been released for copyright reasons. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 19, 2004 Author Share Posted January 19, 2004 For the standard NTSC version that is correct, but I was one of the testers for the hacked/fixed version. Which, alas, hasn't been released for copyright reasons. So what was the problem? Was is just a mistyped instruction or was it more than that? Copyright reasons? Who owns Epyx now? Would they really care if someone released a bug fix? Now if they were trying to sell it, that could cause problems. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedijeff Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 I think everyone who bought the game should be able to send it in to get it fixed. But that's just me. : ) Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 So what was the problem? Was is just a mistyped instruction or was it more than that? Copyright reasons? Who owns Epyx now? Would they really care if someone released a bug fix? Now if they were trying to sell it, that could cause problems. Tempest I don't know what the problem was in the code, I just play tested the corrected version to make sure it was beatable. I believe Bridgestone owns the EPYX rights as well as the Starpath rights. I think negotiations were going on at one point and releasing the ROM might cause problems. I don't know for sure since I was only a tester. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 I think everyone who bought the game should be able to send it in to get it fixed. But that's just me. : ) Jeff Maybe we should all email Atari/Infogrames and demand a refund or a fixed game. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 I'd love to, except I doubt anyone there would even know what it is at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Why is this such a big deal? Comparing the PAL (fixed) version of this to NTSC, there are very few differences. I see a couple of patches in the code, plus the usual handling of extra scan lines. I could easily put the patches in the NTSC version and see if it fixes it, but I'm not good enough at the game to be able to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted February 3, 2004 Author Share Posted February 3, 2004 Give it a shot. I'm sure there are enough people here who can beat it for you (I'm not one of them though). Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 I did the patches, but the problem is in the signature now, since the CRC is different. Did the PAL 7800 not have the encryption? I ask because that part seems to be missing in the ROM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted February 3, 2004 Author Share Posted February 3, 2004 Did the PAL 7800 not have the encryption? Yep. The PAL 7800 was "encryptionless" AFAIK. There is a program out there that can generate the CRC for you though (a78sign or something like that). BTW what was the problem with the NTSC version? Was it several lines of code or just one variable? I'm still wondering how this got past the playtesters. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 There are 2 patches to the code that I found. Actually, a couple things are NOP'd out in the PAL version which is the opposite of what you'd expect. You need the DEV bios to play these since it isn't signed, but anyone who is good at this game give it a try and let me know! impossible_mission__1987___atari___fixed_ntsc_.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenfused Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 You need the DEV bios to play these since it isn't signed, but anyone who is good at this game give it a try and let me know! Here is a signed version.impossible_mission__1987___atari___fixed_signed_ntsc_.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted February 3, 2004 Author Share Posted February 3, 2004 Can someone make this into a bin for the CC2? Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Here you go. Mitch impossible_mission.bin__1987___atari___fixed_signed_ntsc_.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Please let me know if it's fixed. I have no way to tell-- I'm just comparing the code between the PAL and NTSC versions. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Nobody's good enough to verify this are they? I know I'm not.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Nobody's good enough to verify this are they? I know I'm not.... I don't have time to test it right now. Maybe in a month or so if no else has volunteered. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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