Spirantho Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 At least that menu would explain how some space was wasted. It would explain where 2K of it went, yes! 208 is an odd number, though - it's 128+80, which is nonsense. It's possible that it has 768K of ROM, divided into 128x4K (as normal), and 32x2K+48x4K on the other ROM... which would explain the ROM size, but I wouldn't like to do the bank switching code on that. I'll take another look at the list tonight and see if there's a pattern. It is the only clone I've found so far with the menu, though - the other clones tend to just have the same 4K games on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 At least that menu would explain how some space was wasted. It would explain where 2K of it went, yes! For a full menu you will need more that just 2K. You have to store an alphabet plus digits (~36*8 = 288 bytes), pointers to each font graphic for each letter (1 byte each, 208 games * ~12 letters = ~2500 bytes), pointers to start of font graphics pointer of each game (2 bytes each, * 208 = 516 bytes), plus some code for displaying etc. Might fit into 4K. Do you have a screenshot of the menu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 For a full menu you will need more that just 2K. Do you have a screenshot of the menu? Ah, sorry, I misled you. It's not a true menu, it's just a screen which lets you choose a number, with some help text and the ditty playing in the background. It doesn't list any names or anything. I'll try and get a screenshot tonight, if you like, but it's not very interesting per se. Just a black screen with yellow text on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Haven't quite gotten it to work (super corroded) yet but I'd love to know what it says. "Help! I'm being held prisoner in a Chinese Atari Pirate Cart factory!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 I'll try and get a screenshot tonight No thanks, not necessary anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Brought my clone in to work today so I can take a snapshot anyway... just in case it's of any interest to anyone. See how it says "Press to play" yet when you press fire it just resets the console back to the menu. Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Dump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Dump? I don't have a way of dumping it.... unless someone's willing to help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindfield Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 All I can make out: 7 - Reactor? 8 - Spitfire Attack 9 - Pooyan 12 - Tac/Scan 25 - Gas Hog 26 - Lock 'n' Chase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Haven't quite gotten it to work (super corroded) yet but I'd love to know what it says. My co-worker just happens to read Chinese. Here's what she says it says: (top left) Bingo Game Cartridge (next to 32) Cart Bingo Complicated Cartridge 1) City at the Bottom of the Sea 2) Space Shuttle for Rescue 3) Outerspace Freaks 4) Special Team 5) Visitor from Outer Space 6) Beat the Devil 7) Monsterous Spider Battles in the Sky 9) Cry Wolf 10) Battle for Saving the Earth 11) Missiles 12) Planning Star Wars 13) Othello 14) IQ 180 15) Brainswirl (or something like that) 16) Golf 17) Tennis 18) Basketball 19) Soccer 20) Bowling 21) Billiards 22) Baseball 23) Pinball 24) Ox, the King 25) Sherlock Holmes (maybe) 26) Danger 27) Octopus 28) Mickey Mouse 29) Asterix 30) Climbing Stairs 31) Seesaw 32) Fishing (along bottom of label) Turn off main computer power before ejecting cartridge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 29, 2004 Author Share Posted January 29, 2004 Thanks Nathan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 No problem - she was glad to help out. Can you post a list of what all of the game names actually are so we can compare them? I think it'd be interesting to try and figure out why they named them what they did. (I learned that Ox, the King is a Chinese fable. So who says videogames aren't educational?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 29, 2004 Author Share Posted January 29, 2004 1.) Atlantis 2.) Flash Gordon Hack 3.) 4.) Spider Fighter Hack 5.) Space Invaders 6.) Demon Attack Hack 7.) Reactor Hack 8.) Air Raiders 9.) Pooyan 10.) Defender Hack 11.) Missile Command Hack 12.) Tac Scan Hack 13.) Othello 14.) Amidar Hack 15.) Surround 16.) Golf 17.) Tennis 18.) Basketball 19.) Football 20.) Bowling 21.) Trick Shot 22.) Super Challenge Baseball 23.) Midnight Magic 24.) Donkey Kong Hack 25.) Bank Heist 26.) Lock'N'Chase 27.) Name This Game 28.) Jawbreaker Hack 29.) Save Our Ship 30.) Fast Eddie Hack 31.) Circus 32.) Fishing Derby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeV0 Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 I love these multi carts from asia, I have many games that I cant identify. Some of the hacks are pretty fun to play. Nice find, Hope you enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 3.) Fire Birds (ITT Family Games) I am so in the zone today. Also... 7.) should be Spacemaster X-7 17.) should be Fast Eddie (unless your screenshot is misnumbered on the first page of this thread) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 29, 2004 Author Share Posted January 29, 2004 3.) Fire Birds (ITT Family Games) I am so in the zone today. Wow, I didn't know there was a NTSC version of that. Thomas ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 At your service! How do you think this is NTSC? CloneSpy says 0 1 2 3 0 Assault (Bomb)··········································· · 97 88 88 1 Monster aus dem All (1983) (Rainbow Vision) (PAL) [!]···· = · 90 90 2 Fire Birds (AKA Scorpion) (ITT Family Games) (PAL) [!]··· = = · 94 3 Balthazar (aka Babylon 5) (SnailSoft)···················· = = = · Only Assault is NTSC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 29, 2004 Author Share Posted January 29, 2004 Only Assault is NTSC. That is it, #3 is Assault. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Only Assault is NTSC. That is it, #3 is Assault. Cheers. No it's not!!! Its Outerspace Freaks ...can't you read Chinese!!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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