gospeedde Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 I just got a boxed copy of suicide mission and it had a supercharger booklet in it that listed some games that were supposed to be coming out. It has a picture of a "box shot" and "screen shot" of a game called excalibur, which looks like dragonstomper. Does anyone know if they are the same game and, if they are, why they changed the name? It also lists Frantic, Jungle Raid, Clone Attack, and Last Line of Defense as games that are coming soon and I was wondering if any of those games made it to the prototype stage. I like knowing things, it makes me happy. Thanks, De Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 26, 2004 Share Posted January 26, 2004 Excalibur is the beta name of Sword Of Saros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gospeedde Posted January 27, 2004 Author Share Posted January 27, 2004 Thanks. I don't own that one yet so I never would have figured it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I'm pretty sure that excalibur was the original name for Dragonstomper. Isn't there a dump of a prototype out there? Can anyone shed some more light on this? JL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Excalibur is the beta name of Sword Of Saros Nope. Excalibur is the beta name of Dragonstomper. http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/d...r/version39.htm I forget what SoS's beta name was. I have it somewhere. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Nope. Excalibur is the beta name of Dragonstomper. Yup, CloneSpy can confirm this. 0 1 2 3 4 0 Dragonstomper (1 of 3) (1982) (Starpath) (PAL)····· · 90 92 93 69 1 Dragonstomper (1982) (Starpath) [a1]··············· = · 96 96 69 2 Dragonstomper Preview (1982) (Starpath)············ = = · 98 70 3 Dragonstomper (1 of 3) (1982) (Starpath)··········· = = = · 71 4 Excalibur Demo (PD)································ = = = = · Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincYnoTi Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 is there a box for excalibur? i seem to recall someone claiming to own one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 TITLE PROGRAMMERS BOXID# CAT# Supercharger + Phaser Patrol Craig Nelson + Dennis Caswell 1 AR-4000 Communist Mutants From Space Stephen Landrum 2 AR-4101 Fireball Scott Nelson 3 AR-4300 Suicide Mission Steve Hales, Steve Landrum 4 AR-4102 Escape from the Mindmaster Dennis Caswell 5 AR-4200 Dragonstomper (orig Labyrinth) Steve Landrum 6 AR-4200 Killer Satellites Kevin Norman 7 AR-4103 Rabbit Transit Brian McGhie 8 AR-4104 The Official Frogger By Sega Steve Landrum 9 AR-4105 Party Mix Dennis Caswell 10 AR-4430 Sword Of Saros (orig Excalibur) Jon Leupp? 11 AR-4201 Survival Island (orig Jungle) Scott Nelson 12 AR-4401 Sweat! (Beta) Scott Nelson N/A N/A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 That can't be right, because it says that Labyrinth is the proto name for Dragonstomper, which can't be correct. I think the Cyberpunks made the error. According to old EG issues, Excalibur did become Dragonstomper. SoS had another name as well but I can't find the issue that talks about it. If anythign was called Labyrinth other that Mindmaster it would have to be SoS, seeing as there isn't a labyrinth in Dragonstomper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 SoS had another name as well but I can't find the issue that talks about it I can't find it either, but I want to say it was something like Mazes and Monsters or something that sounded D&D like. I'll try and dig it up tonight. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 From a FAQ by Glenn Saunders: Sword Of Saros was originally named Labyrinth? Dragonstomper was originally named Excalibur Survival Island was originally named Jungle? Maybe SoS was originally Labyrinth and we're all wrong about that Mindmaster prototype. It would make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Maybe SoS was originally Labyrinth and we're all wrong about that Mindmaster prototype. It would make sense Umm... except the prototype was labeled Labyrinth. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Maybe Starpath was just confused all around. I think that Mindmaster was originally called Labyrinth in the old issues actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 They could have reused the name I suppose (considering they didn't use it the first time). Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Stoners, I saw the tape, Rick showed it to me and it clearly says Labyrinth on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 We believe you on that, but we don't think SoS was Excalibur. The mystery will continue pendinf further reference material. The name could have been re-used, that's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 We believe you on that, but we don't think SoS was Excalibur. The mystery will continue pendinf further reference material. The name could have been re-used, that's true. I was purely going by the info I got from the Cyberpunks page. I am sure you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Well, the Excalibur source codes on the Starpath CD are IMO quite convincing. ; File name: EXCAL39.ASM ******************* * * * EXCALIBUR * * * * COPYRIGHT 1982 * * * * DATE: 7/23/82 * * * ******************* VER equ $39 llchar '.' ; File name: EXCAL39.SCREEN ******************* * * * EXCAL39.SCREEN * * * * DATE: 9/23/82 * * * * COPYRIGHT 1982 * * * ******************* TREE .HS 101010FE7C38FE7C387C38381000 CASTLE .HS 26263E3A2E3E7B7F555500000000 VILLAIN .HS 81C3663C7EDBDB7E3C POND .HS 2C7EFF7F7EFCFCFE7E7C30000000 SHRUB .HS 00181818181A5FFFFE7F7F3E3C08 CHURCH .HS 00C6C6C6EEFEFEFE7C3810103810 SWAMP .HS 000020548A0144AA1140A2150800 GRASS .HS 0000000000AAAA29480400000000 TRAP .HS 3C7E2A547E66F7FF9999FF7E3C00 DOOR .HS FFFF8181BDBDA5A5BDBD8181FFFF MAZE .HS BFBF919195958585DDDD8181FDFD NIL .HS 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 GATE .HS 0000FEAAAEAABAAAEAAA6C380000 BRIDGE .HS 9292525233331E8C00400021120C DEMON .HS 00081C3E6B637F495D773622 BUG .HS 00183C3C18C37E18FF187EC3183C3C1824244281 WARRIOR .HS 00662424243C3D1959595B3D09191901 SCORPION .HS 008054D43E3FC7438B090B06 SPIDER .HS 0024425A3CBD7E3C7EBD3C5A4224 GHOUL .HS 001C3E2A223E777F495D77222200 SMILER .HS 003C7EC399BDE7FF99DB7E3C CHEST .HS 00F88C8A8989F98D8B7523110E00 POTION .HS 003E7F7F7F41222214140808081C PAPER .HS 007EA1BF84844242422121E1A17E SHIELD .HS 00081C3E3E777763777F7F49 COIN .HS 003C7EFF89EB8BBB8BFF7E3C SLIME .HS 000445575F7FFFFFFFFFFFFE7E1C KEY .HS 0008381838080808080808081C1C003E363E2A1C BEETLE .HS 0099BD7E3CBD7E3CBD7E183C3C1824C3 GUARD .HS 00331212121E0C0C0D0D7F44EC4C40404040 SNAKE .HS 0070FC8E87A3471E7EFCE0E7FC7F3D1F .HS 00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Yeah right Thomas, some proof. What the hell do you know about 2600 code? And why do you have an avatar showing that really cool Thrust game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Yeah right Thomas, some proof. What the hell do you know about 2600 code? And why do you have an avatar showing that really cool Thrust game? Hm, did you forget some smileys in your post? :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Yeah right Thomas, some proof. What the hell do you know about 2600 code? And why do you have an avatar showing that really cool Thrust game? Hm, did you forget some smileys in your post? :wink: Nova doesn't need any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 You all know how I feel about smileys, and I've kissed Thomas' ass many times in the past for his work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Hm, did you forget some smileys in your post? :wink: Nova doesn't need any. Hm, what happened with my smiley in your reply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 You all know how I feel about smileys, and I've kissed Thomas' ass many times in the past for his work. That's why I said you don't need any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Hm, did you forget some smileys in your post? :wink: Nova doesn't need any. Hm, what happened with my smiley in your reply? Quote before Edit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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