TXG/MNX Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 Hi, I was looking at DIAMOND GOS (Cartridge version) and I am still impressed by this GEM interface. It's easy to use with mouse and pretty fast. The disadvantage is that because it uses so much RAM so lot's of software doesn't run When looking at this and some other OS systems like LUNIX and CONTIKI on the C64, I thought it would be much easier now to write a new OS for the 8-bit. There are memory upgrades of 1Mb and cartridges which can hold MB's of data. I also wonder how much RAM a GEM would need in the first 64kb when the program data and buffers are stored in XE extended memory. When this is just a few bytes I think it will run most of the software ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 Hi, I was looking at DIAMOND GOS (Cartridge version) and I am still impressed by this GEM interface. It's easy to use with mouse and pretty fast. The disadvantage is that because it uses so much RAM so lot's of software doesn't run When looking at this and some other OS systems like LUNIX and CONTIKI on the C64, I thought it would be much easier now to write a new OS for the 8-bit. There are memory upgrades of 1Mb and cartridges which can hold MB's of data. I also wonder how much RAM a GEM would need in the first 64kb when the program data and buffers are stored in XE extended memory. When this is just a few bytes I think it will run most of the software ... I have an copy of an Analog Magazine some where that was talking about that Atari was releasing an A-8 GEM there was suppose to be a 48K disk ver. and a 64K cartridge ver. (In the time of the XEGM) Have any on seen these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Jefferson Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 I think Contiki is our best bet for a new OS. It has built in TCP/IP support, a multi-tasking kernel, GUI themes, a modular architecture. All that really needs to be done on the Atari side (as far as I can see) is to get the ethernet cartridge interface done (Chris Martin's website says he is almost finished this.) A graphical GUI could be written, probably. The atari really needs to utilize extended memory though (and as far as I know this isn't implemented by anyone yet) because of the limited memory compared to the C64. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted May 14, 2004 Author Share Posted May 14, 2004 I have an copy of an Analog Magazine some where that was talking about that Atari was releasing an A-8 GEM there was suppose to be a 48K disk ver. and a 64K cartridge ver. (In the time of the XEGM) Have any on seen these? The GEM you're talking about was DIAMOND GOS there is a diskversion but this is pretty useless. The Cartridge version is much better. But Reevesoft was asking to much money for this and Atari didn't take the 8-bit line that serious... this is to bad because Diamond GOS was a GOOD graphical OS. It even has some nice applications, like a word-processor, paint and newsroom and there was an development kit for it. Would love to see something like it only diskbased running for 99% in extended memory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted May 14, 2004 Author Share Posted May 14, 2004 REEVESOFT info http://www.reevesoft.com/history.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernoid Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 I think Contiki is our best bet for a new OS. It has built in TCP/IP support, a multi-tasking kernel, GUI themes, a modular architecture. All that really needs to be done on the Atari side (as far as I can see) is to get the ethernet cartridge interface done (Chris Martin's website says he is almost finished this.) A graphical GUI could be written, probably. The atari really needs to utilize extended memory though (and as far as I know this isn't implemented by anyone yet) because of the limited memory compared to the C64. I have been talking with Mark from Sunmark (www.sunmark.com). He is starting to look at what it will take to have boards manufatured. I was going to make the boards myself, but I am running short on time (my first child is on the way... ). The current Contiki Port makes use of just the "text" GUI, but the software is fairly modular and an Atari GUI front end can be done. And, yes, Memory is definitely an issue. The web browser doesn't fit into the Atari Memory with the new Contiki 2.0 software.... grrr... Like I said, I am short on time, but I will place the 2.0 sources on my website. I did fix the packet drop issue by only parsing incoming packets during VBI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernoid Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Like I said, I am short on time, but I will place the 2.0 sources on my website. Oops, that would be the v1.1 sources, not the 2.0 sources (that do not exist yet...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 I have an copy of an Analog Magazine some where that was talking about that Atari was releasing an A-8 GEM there was suppose to be a 48K disk ver. and a 64K cartridge ver. (In the time of the XEGM) Have any on seen these? The GEM you're talking about was DIAMOND GOS there is a diskversion but this is pretty useless. The Cartridge version is much better. But Reevesoft was asking to much money for this and Atari didn't take the 8-bit line that serious... this is to bad because Diamond GOS was a GOOD graphical OS. It even has some nice applications, like a word-processor, paint and newsroom and there was an development kit for it. Would love to see something like it only diskbased running for 99% in extended memory That's it, but I read it an Analog Magazine I'm sure of it but any way. How hard is it get one of these DIAMOND GOS disk or cart? What format did it support SS/SD, SS/DD, DD/DD or 360K of the XF551? Can any old Atari software can be used with DIAMOND GOS it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 I have an copy of an Analog Magazine some where that was talking about that Atari was releasing an A-8 GEM there was suppose to be a 48K disk ver. and a 64K cartridge ver. (In the time of the XEGM) Have any on seen these? The GEM you're talking about was DIAMOND GOS there is a diskversion but this is pretty useless. The Cartridge version is much better. But Reevesoft was asking to much money for this and Atari didn't take the 8-bit line that serious... this is to bad because Diamond GOS was a GOOD graphical OS. It even has some nice applications, like a word-processor, paint and newsroom and there was an development kit for it. Would love to see something like it only diskbased running for 99% in extended memory That's it, but I read it an Analog Magazine I'm sure of it but any way. How hard is it get one of these DIAMOND GOS disk or cart? What format did it support SS/SD, SS/DD, DD/DD or 360K of the XF551? Can any old Atari software can be used with DIAMOND GOS it? http://www.atarimagazines.com/v8n2/diamondsystem.html http://www.atarimagazines.com/v9n2/reeve.html http://www.atarimagazines.com/v7n10/newproducts.html http://www.atarimagazines.com/v9n1/interview.html Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 WOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted May 19, 2004 Author Share Posted May 19, 2004 You can find a Diamond GOS cartridge sometimes on ebay but these are pretty expensive. The disk version hmm have it somewhere need to look for it... but this is pretty useless I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 I have a Diamong GOS 2.0 cart which was neat to play with but I was never able to get any dos other than DOS 2.5 to work with it - Sparta never worked I also wanted to get my HD to work with it but no luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 You know if you have Steve Tuckers Warp OS upgrade running with Diamong GOS that should make it run fatser when it comes to copying files from drive to drive! hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Jefferson Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 With Steve Tucker's FlashCart you can put the Diamond OS on cartridge. Someone's already done it, as well as SpartaDOS X 4.22. http://www.atarimax.com/flashcart/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 Which version of GOS - 2.0 or 3.0? I think there was a 3.1 which was the last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Jefferson Posted May 20, 2004 Share Posted May 20, 2004 Appears to be 2.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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