AtariLeaf Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 I might be able to get my hands on a Zellers Time Warp. Its listed here as a rarity 5: http://atariage.com/software_page.html?Sof...wareLabelID=761 and at DP as a rarity 3. Why the disparity? The reason I ask is that if I trade for this game it will be to hopefully turn around and trade if for one of the rarer games on my list: Pengo, Spy Hunter, Tapper, or River Raid 2 (I know its harder for you US folks to get these canadian zellers titles.) Since I don't really want time warp, will acquiring it help me get one of those other four or should I not bother picking it up since I personally don't really want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOK-dfa Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Why the disparity? Well basically, establishing the rarity of a cart is not an exact science. It depends on a lot of subjective factors. Location for example. A cart can be very hard to get in some parts of the world while being very easy to get in other parts. There are many factors like this. Also note that rarity != value. Rare carts are not automatically very valuable. Personally i have no idea if it would be a good idea to pick it up. Maybe you can initiate a trade with someone before you pick it up. In that case you can be sure to get for it what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianscott27 Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 i think that the disparity is reflective of the canada only status, from a US prespective it might be a 5 but from a north american prespective its a 3. in this day and age with emails and ebay carts move around a lot so getting a non-US game is not such a big deal for US collectors anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrldstrman Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 I dont know about zellers carts but I think the entire rarity guide needs updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Who cares who is right, just make it a rarity 4 in your own head and be done with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted May 28, 2004 Author Share Posted May 28, 2004 Thanks for your reply. Maybe the mods and the guys who are really "in the know" like CPUWIZ could answer - would that game (if I acquired it) be worth it to someone (hypothetically) to trade for one of the 4 I listed in my OP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Thanks for your reply. Maybe the mods and the guys who are really "in the know" like CPUWIZ could answer - would that game (if I acquired it) be worth it to someone (hypothetically) to trade for one of the 4 I listed in my OP? IMHO, loose it's worth about 5 bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted May 28, 2004 Author Share Posted May 28, 2004 IMHO, loose it's worth about 5 bucks. I'll take that as a no then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adams_ale Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 I've noticed that with Digital Press as well. For instance my Rescue Terra I is a 9 here and a 7 there. But luckily it doesn't really matter that much. Digital Press places almost all of their games at lower rarities that AA. The rarity truth in my opinion is somewhere in the middle of these two great atari sources. Rescue Terra I is still a 9 though damnit!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minorleagueguy Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 That means my Zellers carts are ....WORTHLESS??? (not really) minorleagueguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xot Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 I've noticed that while DP tends to understate rarity, the also tend to overstate value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 I might be able to get my hands on a Zellers Time Warp. Its listed here as a rarity 5:http://atariage.com/software_page.html?Sof...wareLabelID=761 and at DP as a rarity 3. Why the disparity? The reason I ask is that if I trade for this game it will be to hopefully turn around and trade if for one of the rarer games on my list: Pengo, Spy Hunter, Tapper, or River Raid 2 (I know its harder for you US folks to get these canadian zellers titles.) Since I don't really want time warp, will acquiring it help me get one of those other four or should I not bother picking it up since I personally don't really want it. The only Zellers cart you'd be able to trade for something like that would be Inca Gold. Most Zellers carts can be had for about $5 each despite the difficulty in finding them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindfield Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Zellers carts don't tend to fetch much mostly because they're just cheap Canadian pirates of other games. Some of them fetch a little more than average -- Inca Gold, being the rarest, and possibly Farmer Dan and a couple of others. None of them are original games. Time Warp would probably fetch an average R4 value. Value is also based a lot on popularity. Pitfall II for example is only an R4, but it tends to fetch more than many other R4s because it's just a damn good game. A lot of games from particular companies tend to fetch good prices too because their games on the whole tended to be quite good -- Parker Bros., Activision, Sega, CBS and the like all have numerous good titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdie3 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 The rarity guides are all rigged so the secret collector's socities can horde all of the rare games and trick the lowly want to be collector's into paying large quantities of cash. These rarity guides are only a few people's opinions. For example, I think a game like Radar Lock is alot more rare than people say it is but I only base it on my own hunting experiences. I am hoping that they are at least partially based on actual production run counts and sales figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaineMaxwell Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 What's it really matter who's guide is right? If you've got something listed 5 or more in either list, be happy you found it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIPITBULL Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 I am going with KaineMaxwell on this one, just be happy to have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTemplar Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 I think carts should be listed according to their final auction value (price they normally sell for), rather than their rarity (R4, R5, R6). That is pretty confusing for newbies. Lochjaw is a R9 and Obelix is a R10 ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTemplar Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 And I might add I`m looking for River Patrol and I am offering to trade it for Bumper Bash... why not they are both R9`s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted May 29, 2004 Author Share Posted May 29, 2004 I don't have it. I wanted to know if it was worth trading for it. If I found it in the wild I'd be happy but I just wanted to know which rarity guide was closest to being accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTemplar Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Just look on ebay what the cart normally sells for this is the most accurate guide believe me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 It is a 5.74523 if you want to be very accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cootster Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 When it comes to the 2600, this guide is more accurate, more complete and less clogged with vaporware . . . As far as each individual game, they probably have a better reflection of international rarity (since many PAL games just have (?) for rarity, and some aren't even listed although they've been on Ebay . . . Like Action Hi-Tech Aussie Rally . . . Had a chance to buy it, but passed it up because I couldn't find out what game it was (Enduro?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adams_ale Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 And I might add I`m looking for River Patrol and I am offering to trade it for Bumper Bash... why not they are both R9`s I'd trade 4 of my current 3 of my current 9's for a River Patrol Stronghold, Tooth Protectors, Q*Berts Qubes. I could probably trade much more than that and no one would be willing to trade. I'll get it one of these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adams_ale Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 geez.... I really need to use the preview button before I press submit. "trade 4 of my 3 of my Rarity 9...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
video game addict Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 geez.... I really need to use the preview button before I press submit. "trade 4 of my 3 of my Rarity 9...." I take it you didn't favor Math Gran Prix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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