shining slade Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 I really do not understand the whole P thing. I don't think it means it's PAL because I'e got a couple of carts with the P & they play fine for me. No rolling or anything. Anyone know the REAL reason for the P?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 The stickers are meant to designate the different TV signals that the cart's intended to work on. P=PAL N=NTSC S=Supposedly means Seacam, but I've heard that Seacam games are really just PAL titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Man, I hate not being able to edit... If the games with a P work on your TV, it's possible that your TV can support PAL signals or that they were misstickered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shining slade Posted May 31, 2004 Author Share Posted May 31, 2004 I know my TV does not support PAL games. I've got an Off the Wall that's PAL and it rolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 I know my TV does not support PAL games. I've got an Off the Wall that's PAL and it rolls. Does the image fit the TV screen perfectly, or does it look stretched? If it looks stretched, the game is in all likelihood PAL, but for some reason, it's viewable on your TV. The same thing's happened to me on a TV that I know does not support PAL. If it fits perfectly, then maybe the sticker was just stuck on there by accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 As for SECAM games, I have one that states "Systeme TV SECAM Exclusivement", but it plays fine on my PAL TV that does not support NTSC. And a P on a cart, no matter where does indicate it's PAL. I guess if some of those games with the P on the end label play on your TV, then you must have a color shift like a NTSC game on a PAL TV right? Perhaps you can compare your games with screenshots here in the Atari database. If they are not the same it means you have a PAL cart. Still TV sets are strange things, I have a PAL Nuts (Technovision) cart and a PAL Desert Falcon that roll on my PAL TV just like they were NTSC carts, but the colors are OK, so they can't be NTSC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highinfidelity Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Yes, basically Atari games use a wide range of freaky scanlines, so there are many PAL games that fit NTSC TVs and vice-versa. If the TV vertical hold is "flexible" enough, it can sync the signal and voila' there goes your game, wether it is NTSC or PAL. You don't even know how many NTSC games I owned and played every day without knowing it. I've found it out lately, buying a multi-standard TV, and was very surprised. On the other hand, sometimes the vertical sync is SO freaky that PAL games don't work on PAL TVs but that's another problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 I love P's on end labels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 I love P's on end labels Most of us beer lovers do! I'm with ya brother, sometimes I don't want to get up and walk all the way to the bathroom either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongbeat Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 S=Supposedly means Seacam' date=' but I've heard that Seacam games are really just PAL titles.[/quote'] Just look at pictures http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=50225 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeV0 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 I just dont understand why anyone would ever want to pee on an atari cart? Unless it was pac man or et Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisper Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 As you can see in the above picture my Pacman and ET both have Pee on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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