alienblue Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 I am engaged in a debate on another board and my Efreind Russ Perry directed me here. The other person says the ghost/ monsters in 2600 pac man are DIFFFERENT COLORS (red,orange,etc...)...I say they are ALL WHITE, every old VG mag says they are WHITE (or at least the same color)....so what does the CODE say guys? I believe in you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 I thought "they" were all yellow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xot Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 If you look carefully they are in fact tinted different colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 They are different colors. I took a bunch of snap shots using the Mac OS X version of Stella 1.4, then using the "Digital Color meter" I figured out which of the snapshots had different colors for the ghosts. The colors are very similiar - would have been nicer if they made them more unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SpiceWare Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 should have mentioned - the hex value in the filenames is the RGB color of the ghost in that file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 The other person says the ghost/monsters in 2600 pac man are DIFFFERENT COLORS (red,orange,etc...) Welcome to AtariAge! I really wonder why you are asking this over and over again, though you got the correct answer already. BTW: The "other person" is me (thrust26). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 BTW: The "other person" is me (thrust26). And what the hell would you know about Atari 2600 code? I aways percieved the ghosts as being white while some others told me they saw the colors. Perhaps this is related to our differing perceptions of flickering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 I think that this thrust26 person doesn't know what he's talking about. I mean, what has HE ever programmed?? Side Note: Atari 2600's Pac-Man is really a great game...looks just like the arcade. Only televisions can't display it properly, so it looks like junk. Everything above is a lie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 We need to find a real 2600 expert to answer this. Does anyone know how to contact the guy who wrote Thrust? That game is sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 The colors are very similiar - ... Yup, they are. This is due to the color palette of the Atari 2600. The brighter the colors become, the less saturated they are. And they had to use quite bright colors to use the phosphorescence of the TV. Else the ghosts would have become even worse visible than they are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Player Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 One thing I can say about all the colors used in 2600 Pac-Man. The colors selected have to be one of the most aesthetically unpleasing palettes in a 2600 game. I guess that if you are stuck using those colors for the ghosts, you have to make everything else look pale and drab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 I just played Pac-Man with an emulator and you can see some color difference, but when I used to play it on my old color TV back in 1982, the ghosts looked yellow. The ghosts flickered so badly that you could barely tell there was a color, so it would be very hard to see see any color differences on my old TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 They are definitely different colors. The colors are very very pale, but they are there. -S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
128bytes Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 I just played Pac-Man with an emulator and you can see some color difference, but when I used to play it on my old color TV back in 1982, the ghosts looked yellow. The ghosts flickered so badly that you could barely tell there was a color, so it would be very hard to see see any color differences on my old TV. The ghosts looked yellow on my TV back then, and they still do now. As a kid, I used to sometimes play in black and white mode to see the ghosts better! Nowadays I just keep it in color. Also, the manual shows them as the "ghost quartet", with a cutesy illustration showing them all yellow. Most likely there wasn't enough time in the rushed release schedule (and decision to skimp on the RAM) to tweak the colors to make them more recognizable, and the Atari marketing spin doctors followed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakpack Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 I noticed they were different unique colors when the games cycles thru the 'screen saver' colors.Check it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi301 Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 The flickering's so bad I couldn't tell what color they are. Should I take the ritual ballpin hammer to my Pac-Man cartridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEBRO Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 For those interested the ghost colors reside @ $FF2B - $FF2E for color $FF36 - $FF39 for black & white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Looks like he still (and here too) doesn't believe us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEBRO Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 I can understand how he thinks they are the same color. This was one of the eye poppers I found while labeling the source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 I can understand how he thinks they are the same color. This was one of the eye poppers I found while labeling the source. Sure, but does he ask then not listening to all the identical answers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarnaomi Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 HELLO! IHAVE THIS GAME AND THE GHOSTS ARE ALL DIFFERNT COLORS. THEY ARE ALL YELLOW AT START THEN WHEN YOU EAT THE BIG PILLS THE ARE BLUE AND THEN THEY ARE RED AND THEN BECMOME YELLOW AGAIN. THAT IS HOW IT LOOKS ON MY TV AND MY TV IS NEW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vb_master Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireTiger Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 solarnaomi, there is no need to "yell" the question is posted because the code, and diffrent people's preception of the game on the 2600 are not in agreement THe code is that they are diffrent colors Most *females* (including me, 7 I have checked all 7 see diffrent shades when not overlapped) -> see the colors (I didn't check the color-blind aunt though-> green-yellow color blind or something) Most *males* (5 of the 7 I've checked the one that could see the color is one of them is not adult physically (he's 10)) -> do NOT see the diffrent shades It has to do with how preceptive a person is, how well there eyes and brain work and wow they are wired to preceive the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 I saw the old thread regarding the different ghost colors a good while back... and altho the colors are VERY similar I believe they are in fact different based on the evidence provided. That said. I wouldn't waste my time pointing out that someone still didn't believe even after they were presented with the same info. Fact is, some folks in this world A.) Just like to argue for fun...or B.) Can't absorb new information after believing something else for so long. Either way....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Fact is, some folks in this world ... Can't absorb new information after believing something else for so long. Oh oh, let's not get political in this forum too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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