indianatigre Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 I'm italian and i have an ATARI BMX AirMaster (not TNT..only licensed from) Ii have Cart/Box/Manual. All are in english (no others languages) and no mention aboutt PAL or NTSC version. I suppose is PAL (I'm in Italy).... but where i can find the difference from NTSC or PAL? I have to try with my Atari2600? I have a recent TV. My question come from the rarity of the game. NTSC rarest tha PAL... Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsukasa Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Usually on the label there is a letter "P" if the game is pal. If it's NTSC, there won't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianatigre Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 No. There is no label "P" on the back of the cart. I know this difference. But the cart can have loose this label (is a very little label....) And now? no other difference? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsukasa Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 The "P" is usually attached to the end of the part number, so it would be CX26190P. Here is a link to AtariAges scan of an NTSC Cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniperCCJVQ Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 About the "P" : I once got a Motorodeo cart without the "P". Whoever, it was PAL because it was rolling on my TV screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOK-dfa Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 The "P" is usually attached to the end of the part number The keyword here is 'usually'. Many carts are PAL but do not have a "P" on the label or in the part number. Since you are in Italy i would say there's a 99.999% chance it's PAL. Only way to make sure is to view it on an old TV (that does not support any standard except PAL) and see if the colors are correct. If it is NTSC then the colors should be a bit different... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highinfidelity Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 The jury is still out to decide if we can definitively conclude that "P" on end label is a sufficient but non necessary condition for the game to be PAL. That is: if there's the P, the game is PAL for sure. If there ain't any, it might be PAL as well as NTSC. Anyone with a P label containing a PROVEN NTSC game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianatigre Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 Butt my AirMaster does not have any "P". And show like the photo of the cart/box in AtariAge. I Think that NTSC e PAL version of AirMaster is the same in appearance. And the difference between the two version is noted only with a old television..... So i don't understand why must pay more $ for a cart totally equal with the only difference on standard PAL or NTSC.... (rarest than...) difference not visible in "normal" tv....... seems to be a exaggeration of the collectible carts of Atari i think. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOK-dfa Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 Butt my AirMaster does not have any "P".And show like the photo of the cart/box in AtariAge. Again, that does not mean anything. Many PAL carts have no "P" on the label, and look the same as NTSC carts... So i don't understand why must pay more $ for a cart totally equal with the only difference on standard PAL or NTSC.... (rarest than...) difference not visible in "normal" tv....... Well, you don't have to pay more if you don't want Why are people paying top dollars to buy paintings from famous artists when they can buy a cheap reproduction or see it for free in some catalogue in the library? People want to have 'the real thing' Cheers, Raymond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianatigre Posted August 24, 2004 Author Share Posted August 24, 2004 Ok.. But same is ATARI and same DATE and same GAME The fact that PAL version of BMX AirMaster is less rare than the NTSC version...I want to know the origin of this. In Digital Press there i no mention about NTSC & PAL difference (on RARITY) and AtariAge is the same. Only mention that "Atari purchased the rights to this game from TNT at one point, and released a small quantity under their own label. Very hard to find, as not many were produced and even fewer were ever sold." I see in the past various post on the subjectt of AirMaster... I think that a level of "10" is not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk7382 Posted August 24, 2004 Share Posted August 24, 2004 So i don't understand why must pay more $ for a cart totally equal with the only difference on standard PAL or NTSC.... (rarest than...) difference not visible in "normal" tv....... Well there were more of the PAL cartriges made so therefore they are more common and cheaper. The video game market crashed fast in the US and games like motorodeo seen very little distribution. To answer your question, you pay more for any game that was produced in low numbers (even if there are thousands of PAL versions of the same game, the NTSC will still be very rare) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highinfidelity Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 In Digital Press there i no mention about NTSC & PAL difference (on RARITY) and AtariAge is the same. This is because AtariAge is much USA-oriented, and extremely few space is dedicated to european goods since the website is basically kept up by american folks. It's not that there's no mention of the difference: it totally lacks a file for the PAL edition, so you can't make the comparison. I think that a level of "10" is not true. Well, this may be object of debate. There are games which appear to be overrated lately, probably because the market's dynamics have changed. But don't jump to conclusions because you've found a PAL cart in your drawer. Finding an NTSC one is whole another story!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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