Flack Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I picked up a pile of commons the other day (25 games for a buck each at the local thrift). 90% of them ended being up dupes (and hey -- they could be YOUR dupes at OKGE!), but one caught my eye. As I was looking at each one to determine whether they were dupes or not, I noticed the end Joust label read "Joust P". The P is smaller and to the right a bit of the word Joust, but it's printed on the label and in the same color and font (but slightly smaller) than the word JOUST. I'm not a huge Atari collector, I've only got about a hundred or so loose carts, but just scanning my shelves I didn't see any other game in my collection with a letter out to the side. And as we all know, P stands for "P"rototype which got me excited. It also stands for "P"robably not which I'm assuming is the case, but I'm still wondering what on earth that P means! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio F Software Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Hmmm, Tempest could tell you if it were a proto or not, he's smart like that. I think the P stands for, POWER because j00 got teh powar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
privateers69 Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 what about 'P' for PAL? instead of being for Prototype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flack Posted September 13, 2004 Author Share Posted September 13, 2004 what about 'P' for PAL? instead of being for Prototype D'oh, hadn't thought of that. I'll have to slap her in the ol' woody tonight and see if it's PAL or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saikyo Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 what about 'P' for PAL? instead of being for Prototype Thats exactly what it means ive had at least 5 carts in the past with that on it only mine was a small black sticker with a white P on the back. Usually protos will have no lables, homemade looking or lab loaner lables and in some cicumstances, NO cart at all! Sorry to give you the bad news that this isnt a proto, but keep looking because its small things like that, that may net you a proto in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK WOMBLE Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Definately pal... Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seob Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 The P of Pal stands beside the game name on the endlabel mostly when it is a Atari picture label. Sometimes this is also used on silver label carts. Mostly there's a P sticker on the back of the cart indicating that it is a Pal game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 5 ways of telling (from memory) if it's a PAL Atari-manufactured cart: 1) It has PAL stamped in big letters on the front. I think I've only seen Combat like this. 2) It has a P in the model number, i.e. CX-2622-P (text label) or CX26120 (red label). Note that the rare-in-NTSC carts like Motorodeo, Ikari Warriors and BMX Airmaster (I think all 3 of them) tend not to bother with the P which to me implies they were never really meant for the US market. 3) It has a small P on the end label. This is only the silver label variations I think. 4) A sticker on the back of the cart has a white P on a black square. This occurs on silver labels and picture labels mostly IIRC, but sometimes on others too I think. 5) The colours are wrong. There's no way of telling with some carts - though of course many of them may be where the sticker's fallen off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philflound Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 There are a few titles I know of that have the P on the end label. In fact I think I have more than one for sale. I know I have Berserk, but my brain isn't functioning at work to recall if I have others. Check out the label variation list on my website to see what others may have the P on the end label. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flack Posted September 14, 2004 Author Share Posted September 14, 2004 3) It has a small P on the end label. This is only the silver label variations I think. I think this is the one that applies, as Joust is a silver label. Thanks for the info, fellas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philflound Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 But Joust is not the only one with a P on the end label. I know Centipede has had it too and is a Silver label. Though Berserk isn't a silver label. I think Galaxian may also be one. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seob Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I've got the following games with the Pal marker on the endlabel: Missile Command (picture label) Pac-man (picture label) Ms. Pac-man (silver label) E.T. (silver label) Space invaders (picture label) Most others just have a Pal marker on the back of the cart, and some even haven't a Pal marker on them (but then again they might have come lose) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l3ushwig Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 You have it all wrong http://www.atariage.com/label_page.html?LabelID=5 all it is is a later release of the game take a look at the link. i had the same problem before too unti l i searched around for it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seob Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 I'm sorry, but we are not wrong. Why the game says it is a NTSC game I don't know, could be mistyped. Maybe it is a label fault, made at the factory, or it is just a NTSC game dat isn't affected or alterd when played on a Pal machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowdoggie Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 I have one game with a 'P' and it's Video Pinball (Atari Picture). It's definitely PAL, because the bottom of the screen gets completely cutoff on my TV..... making it a much more challenging game now. I originally thought it stood for 'poop in pants', but after much consideration, I have ruled that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowdoggie Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 I have one game with a 'P' and it's Video Pinball (Atari Picture). It's definitely PAL, because the bottom of the screen gets completely cutoff on my TV..... making it a much more challenging game now. I originally thought it stood for 'poop in pants', but after much consideration, I have ruled that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saikyo Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 So you mean this?http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=922 That says it is indeed NTSC but it has the Pal P, so what this is, is a factory printing mistake that gave Pal lables to NTSC games. Unless someone made a mistake with the list and it should be listed PAL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saikyo Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Argh link didnt work stupid disabled edit button!!!! here it is http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html...wareLabelID=922 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeV0 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Ok, it pal or a printing error. I have many as im from a pal country, but a few are ntsc believe it or not. Many carts have printing errors like Ataai and aatari, the list go's on. Either its a pal cart or label. If someone finds it a proto then ive got alot of protos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkeykong1 Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 I've got the same cart, have'nt tried it out yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
video game addict Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 Argh link didnt work stupid disabled edit button!!!! here it is http://www.atariage.com/software_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=922 I believe that page is in err The P on end label is give away to PAL status. Maybe on rare printing errors a NTSC cart ends up with the P but not very common at all. I've only ever seen them on PAL carts, I have one here now with P on end label it too is PAL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keir Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 I just got a Joust cart with "P" on the end label and it works fine on my NTSC TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattG/Snyper2099 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 It was a printing error. I have the same cart Joust cart. If it works on a TV that doesn't like PAL, it is NTSC. I've had mine dumped. BTW, found mine in a pawn shop with 75 other NTSC games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shining slade Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 My "P"engo has a P on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOK-dfa Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 My "P"engo has a P on it Ha! My Pengo has 2 P's on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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