Blackjack Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I want to go ahead and order the Krokodile, but there is one question I have, it may be dumb, but I don't want any surprises. Will I be able to load up a bunch of games that are different sizes at the same time? I know it supports all the different bankswitching modes, but can I have all different kinds loaded onto the cart at once? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 No, I do not believe it can do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 No, I do not believe it can do that. Damn! I was really hoping for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Nope, it can only support one BS logic at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Actually, Armin is adding the ability to support multiple types of bankswitching methods for the multicart modes. For each mode above 4K, you will be able to load the previous bankswitching types, although they will take the full amount of space for that "size". For example, the F8 mode (8K) mode will also allow you to load 4K games, but they will take 8K of space in the multicart. In 16K mode, you can also load 8K and 4K games, but they will each take up 16K. And in 32K mode you'll be able to load 32K, 16K, 8K, and 4K games, but they'll each take up 32K. The F8 (8K) mode will be very useful, since there are plenty of 8K and 4K games out there. I don't know if Armin has gotten this to work yet, so I don't want to say this is a definite feature right now. Even if he isn't able to get this to work, being able to create multicarts restricted to a particular game size is still very cool, since you can save these multicart images and load them on demand. So you can create different multicart images of all your favorite 4K games, another for your favorite 8K games, and so forth, and quickly load them into the Krokodile Cart through the Krokodile Commander software. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nathan Strum Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Any further word on the Java version of the Commander software? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Any further word on the Java version of the Commander software? No, not yet, but I can ask Andrew. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 Thanks for the info Albert, if he could get that working it would seal the deal for me..... well, I'll probably buy it anyway, I just have to spend a couple days talking myself into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Thanks for the info Albert, if he could get that working it would seal the deal for me..... well, I'll probably buy it anyway, I just have to spend a couple days talking myself into it. i know how you can talk yourself into it faster!!!! just click below and keep reading it over and over http://www.atariage.com/store/product_info...products_id=291 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroko Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 As Albert said, I was investigating if it is possible to mix different cartridge sizes on the multicarts. There is some good news and some bad news: 1K,2K and 4K games can be loaded into ANY multicart. But you can only choose one bankswitching mode for the multicart. That means: if you compile a non switched multicart, you can select 1K,2K and 4K ROMs if you compile a F8 switched multicart, you can select 1K,2K,4K and 8K ROMs if you compile a F6 switched multicart, you can select 1K,2K,4K and 16K ROMs if you compile a F4 switched multicart, you can select 1K,2K,4K and 32K ROMs But you can NOT mix 8K,16K and 32K ROMs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 As Albert said, I was investigating if it is possible to mix differentcartridge sizes on the multicarts. There is some good news and some bad news: 1K,2K and 4K games can be loaded into ANY multicart. But you can only choose one bankswitching mode for the multicart. That means: if you compile a non switched multicart, you can select 1K,2K and 4K ROMs if you compile a F8 switched multicart, you can select 1K,2K,4K and 8K ROMs if you compile a F6 switched multicart, you can select 1K,2K,4K and 16K ROMs if you compile a F4 switched multicart, you can select 1K,2K,4K and 32K ROMs But you can NOT mix 8K,16K and 32K ROMs Just curious, Did you actually have to change anything in the cartridge itself for this too work? In an ideal world, I'm guessing the only change is in the PC software. Thanks, 5-11under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroko Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Did you actually have to change anything in the cartridge itself for this too work? In an ideal world, I'm guessing the only change is in the PC software. The cartridge was not changed. You are right, it was only an update of the windows software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack Posted December 16, 2004 Author Share Posted December 16, 2004 That's actually pretty good news Kroko... if I can put all my favorite 2k - 8k games on the cart at one time, that pretty much covers it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack Posted December 20, 2004 Author Share Posted December 20, 2004 That did it, I managed to talk myself into it in under 2 days. It's pre ordered and paid. And hey, throw in the free Holiday QB cart and I figure I can't lose. What a bargain! [begin happy dance] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Funny, that was my logic too - why not pre-order when you get a free Holiday Qb with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atwwong Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 As Albert said, I was investigating if it is possible to mix differentcartridge sizes on the multicarts. There is some good news and some bad news: 1K,2K and 4K games can be loaded into ANY multicart. But you can only choose one bankswitching mode for the multicart. That means: if you compile a non switched multicart, you can select 1K,2K and 4K ROMs if you compile a F8 switched multicart, you can select 1K,2K,4K and 8K ROMs if you compile a F6 switched multicart, you can select 1K,2K,4K and 16K ROMs if you compile a F4 switched multicart, you can select 1K,2K,4K and 32K ROMs But you can NOT mix 8K,16K and 32K ROMs Sorry for the dumb question, but can the cart be recompiled, i.e., if it's compiled to be a F4 switched multicart, could it later be recompiled to a F8 switched multicart? Just like the programming in of games, can the recompiling be done over and over again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atwwong Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 "Yes." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 It'd be really nice if someday one of you programmer types took us creative free thinking Mac user types into consideration. There's a surprising amount of us in Atariland. :wink: I'd love to get one of these, as it sounds like a great project with a lot of great applications, but don't need to waste $100 on another great concept that becomes an expensive paperwieght for us Mac users. I'll probably be passing on this as I did the Maxicart, CC1 and CC2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 It'd be really nice if someday one of you programmer types took us creative free thinking Mac user types into consideration. There's a surprising amount of us in Atariland. :wink: I'd love to get one of these, as it sounds like a great project with a lot of great applications, but don't need to waste $100 on another great concept that becomes an expensive paperwieght for us Mac users. I'll probably be passing on this as I did the Maxicart, CC1 and CC2. Forgive my ignorance but Mac's only have USB these days, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 EDIT: paperweight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 It'd be really nice if someday one of you programmer types took us creative free thinking Mac user types into consideration. There's a surprising amount of us in Atariland. :wink: I'd love to get one of these, as it sounds like a great project with a lot of great applications, but don't need to waste $100 on another great concept that becomes an expensive paperwieght for us Mac users. I'll probably be passing on this as I did the Maxicart, CC1 and CC2. Forgive my ignorance but Mac's only have USB these days, right? Mine has SCSI. That would be where part of my screen name came from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Forgive my ignorance but Mac's only have USB these days, right? Yes, but you can get USB to Serial devices. Andrew Davie has stated that he might do a Java version of the Krokodile Commander software, which would allow a broader range of platforms (hopefully including OS X, as that is what I use full-time) to take advantage of the Krokodile Cart. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 It'd be really nice if someday one of you programmer types took us creative free thinking Mac user types into consideration. There's a surprising amount of us in Atariland. :wink: I'd love to get one of these, as it sounds like a great project with a lot of great applications, but don't need to waste $100 on another great concept that becomes an expensive paperwieght for us Mac users. I'll probably be passing on this as I did the Maxicart, CC1 and CC2. Forgive my ignorance but Mac's only have USB these days, right? Mine has SCSI. That would be where part of my screen name came from I meant as opposed to a serial port, you smartass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 I meant as opposed to a serial port, you smartass. That'd be the other half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 I meant as opposed to a serial port, you smartass. That'd be the other half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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