Curt Vendel Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 This is some good data to put into the Atari 8bit faq, this is a listing of all of the chips being worked on up to June 1984: From: CHENG 28-JUN-1984 11:19 * To: JAKE,JEFF 06/27/84 LSI TEST MASTER FILE CONTENTS ----------------------------- Tape# Part# Name Revision Date On floor tape ===== ======= =============== ======== ======== ============= 1. Master floor tape (test) 2. Master floor tape (Q.A.) 3. Master floor tape (H.K.) 06/22/84 4. MASTR 2.2 software tape 5. M3 5.1 software tape 6. C010444 STELLA 0444E 10/05/83 yes 7. C010745 6507 0745E 01/25/83 yes 8. C010750 6532 0750E 10/04/83 yes 9. C011903 PAULA 1903B 11/05/80 yes 10. C012294 POKEY HF2294 06/20/83 yes 11. C012296 ANTIC HC2296 07/25/83 yes 12. C014328 1k RAM H4328 09/20/82 yes 13. C014329 FLOP. DISK CONTR. HB4329 05/11/83 yes 14.** C014331 16kx1 DRAM 3-supp 15. C014377 6502 CPU HD4377 11/17/83 yes 16. C014795 PIA (6520) HF4795 06/02/83 yes 17. C014805 GTIA HC4805 02/14/83 yes 18. C014806 SALLY HP4806 09/29/83 yes 19. C014887 PAL ANTIC HD4887 02/24/84 yes 20. C014889 PAL GTIA HB4889 11/30/83 yes 21. C015338 STAR 15338 10/31/81 22. C015339 STELLETTE 15339D 04/07/83 23. C015946 3870 5946A 06/08/83 24. C016145 fast 6507 6145A 06/24/80 25. C016150 fast 6532 6150A 06/24/80 26.** C016213 2716(2kx8 EPROM) 27.** C016505 16kx4 DRAM 28. C016598 ISABEL IBEL 05/07/81 29. C016599 STEPHANIE 6599A 06/04/83 yes 30. C016701 FRANTIC 6701 05/12/81 31. C016702 BETTY 16702 01/04/83 32. C016819 ENCODER 6819 03/31/83 yes 33. C016820 DECODER 6820 03/16/83 yes 34. C016821 Transistor Array HFEXXX 11/21/83 yes 35.** C018082 16kx1 DRAM 1-supp 36. C018172 FTIA HA8172 08/24/83 yes 37. C018969 COMBO 8969A 06/22/83 38. C020120 FGTIA HA0120 05/11/84 yes 39. C020231 SARA HC0231 05/16/84 yes 40. C020574 PORKEY 574A 03/07/83 41. C020577 CGIA H0577 04/04/84 42.** C021463 MEG 43. C021697 ANTIC-E HC1697 06/19/83 yes 44. C021698 PAL ANTIC-B HC1698 06/19/83 yes 45.** C021737 KERI 46.** C021859 AMY 47.** C024143 MERCURY 48.** C024382 MISTY 49.** C024421 MTV-1 50.** C024422 RAINBOW GOLD 51.** C024423 RAINBOW SILVER 52.** C024424 STEPHANIE PAL 53. C024425 QUAD POKEY HA4425 06/12/84 54.** C024426 BENNY 55.** C024574 MATTHEW 56. C024674 MARIA-B HD4674 06/12/84 57.** C025307 MATT 58. C025349 MARIA-C H5349 06/06/84 59. C025632 PIC 1670 H5632 05/15/84 60.** C025718 PAL MARIA 61. C060472 DELAY LINE 0472E 05/24/84 yes 62. C060609 MMU HC0609 03/09/84 yes 63.** C060612 64kx1 DRAM 1-supp 64.** C061617 65. C061618 MMU H1618 05/13/83 yes 66.** C061690 6551 SIA 67.** C061692 MODEM (N.S.) 68.** C061693 2732A (EPROM) 69.** C061720 SPEECH SYN 70.** C061842 MMU 71. C061917 PAL C H1917 08/05/83 yes 72. C061918 PAL B H1918 08/03/83 yes 73. C061919 PAL A HB1919 03/14/84 yes 74.** C061921 DISK CONTROLLER 75. C061922 FREDDIE HA1922 03/21/84 yes 76.** C061928 8050 CPU 77. C061991 FREDDIE (ASG) H1991 12/12/83 78.** C062016 MODEM (T.I.) 79.** C062208 280A 80.** C062209 6116 (2kx8 SRAM) 81.** C062210 6845 VIP CONTR. 82.** C062211 280 PERIF. INTERFACE 83.** C137410 ICY Keri was an Antic/GTIA/Pokey combined, Meg was a Cmos version of Pokey, Porkey was a stereo Pokey, Misty, MTV, Star and a few others I have not determined as of yet, I'm examining the tape-outs to see if I can isolate and identify what the functions are. Curt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 9. C011903 PAULA 1903B 11/05/80 yes Is it THE PAULA? The time would fit too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanBoris Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Curt, This is really cool stuff! The ones that jump out at me are: STELLETTE - Name would lead you to believe this is a variation of the TIA chip from the 2600. fast 6507, fast 6532 - Where they planning a version of the 2600 with a faster clock speed? RAINBOW GOLD and RAINBOW SILVER - These names just sound cool! I would assume these were some form of graphics chip. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 Rainbow or Silver& Gold were chips slated for Sierra and/or Gaza, the high end 68000 based computer systems Atari was developing in-house prior to the sale to the Tramiels. Curt Curt, This is really cool stuff! The ones that jump out at me are: STELLETTE - Name would lead you to believe this is a variation of the TIA chip from the 2600. fast 6507, fast 6532 - Where they planning a version of the 2600 with a faster clock speed? RAINBOW GOLD and RAINBOW SILVER - These names just sound cool! I would assume these were some form of graphics chip. Dan 909183[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanBoris Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I found this list so interesting I put together a web page with a cleaned up version of the list along with descriptions of the known chip. If anyone has anything else to contribute please let me know and I will add it to the list. http://www.atarihq.com/danb/AtariChips.shtml Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 paula sounds very intersting and familiar if its really the amiga sound chip.... same goes to "enhanced antic" (ref. to dan's side) and to quad-pokey used in arcades... which would be interesting to know what the enhanced antic is all about? (copper?). and which aracade machines used quad pokey with 16 sound channels... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanBoris Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 paula sounds very intersting and familiar if its really the amiga sound chip.... same goes to "enhanced antic" (ref. to dan's side) and to quad-pokey used in arcades... which would be interesting to know what the enhanced antic is all about? (copper?). and which aracade machines used quad pokey with 16 sound channels... 909725[/snapback] The Quad Pokey was used in Star Wars, Return of the Jedi, I-Robot, Major Havoc, and maybe some others. I have seen the ANTIC-E referenced in a few of the documents on Kurt's site, but nothing that actually describes what it is. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 the 'stereo' pokey chip that Atari were working on, does that and the the original 'gumby' pokey u/g have any connection, or did CS work for Atari And with regards to Siera, gaza and Paula, it proves once and for all that Atari were at a very advanced stage in developing their version of the AMIGA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 so a quad pokey is available??? why not throwing this into 800? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Heaven: first ask Jaskier to modify TMC2 to 4 POKEYs (small modification IIRC), and then find somebody to write music on 16ch (not me - for me 4ch is [almost always] enough)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 miker... i am just wondering if quad-pokey is "compatible to old pokey" or if it's a complete new chip a la paula... or really just 4xpokey v1978... did you really do music? i thought just coding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 did you really do music? i thought just coding... 909975[/snapback] well, try some Polish demos and you'll probable see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analmux Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 For me the big question is: Is there a place on earth where we can get these chips? F.e. I would be interested in the enhanced antic and quad pokey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanBoris Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 miker... i am just wondering if quad-pokey is "compatible to old pokey" or if it's a complete new chip a la paula... or really just 4xpokey v1978... did you really do music? i thought just coding... 909975[/snapback] Here's the Quad Pokey from the Major Havoc schemaitcs. I-Robot uses one also, but the part number is different then on the list. It's still possible it's the same chip, might just have been given a different part number in the arcade divsion. From what I have read the Quad Pokey's are hard to come buy, to the point where someone started selling Quad Pokey eliminators which was a PCB that went in place of the Quad Pokey and had sockets for 4 normal Pokeys. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 i should fire up mame and have a listen to the games you mentioned... now what about the antic-e? used in the arcades as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanBoris Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 I dug out some old Atari chips that someone gave me a while back and one of them appears to be the CO11903 PAULA chip, see the attached picture. I got these so long ago, that I have forgotten what they where supposed to be. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 huy... and what is Paula supposed to do? maybe we should compare the chip with the amiga one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanBoris Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Wish I knew! I already checked the Amiga idea, the Amiga chip has more pins. The part number and date on the list for Paula are pretty low, which makes it likely that it's for use in the 2600 or 8-bit computer products. Dan huy... and what is Paula supposed to do? maybe we should compare the chip with the amiga one... 911048[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krupkaj Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 I am just modding my 2600 for composite output and there is on TIA chip written C011903. Does it mean PAL TIA is called PAULA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Any progress with identification of these anywhere? A number of them are standard Atari custom chips, but still about a half of these I cannot identify or assign in any way. Does anyone know more already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+kheller2 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 (edited) Some of these are not on the parts list. 1450 TONG Parts: CO60612 - Static Ram CO61920 - Handler C061690 - 6551 ACIA 1450XLD Parts: (I'm guessing this is the short board version) C021697 - ANTEC 'E' used as an alternate for C012296 ANTIC CO14812 - 68B21 Generic PIA Alternate for CO14795 6520 PIA C061598 - ROM 16K * 8 O.S. CO60302 - ROM 8K * 8 BASIC CO61920 - ROM 4K * 8 HANDLER More 14xx pron can be found here: http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/141979-1450-parts-lists/page__view__findpost__p__1718985y1718985 Edited December 9, 2009 by kheller2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+tf_hh Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Hi,sorry for this hard necrobump... but looking for a Z80 CPU in my drawer I found two unidentified chips with this marking:MOSTEKMK3870/20MK14679NDALLASC015946-09The last line looks like an ATARI partnumber and I found it in this thread in post #1, but without any explanation. I´ve two of them. Anybody an idea, for what these guys are used?Here´s a picture: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nezgar Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Hmm it doesn't come up on any of the usual Atari part lists... but with some googling I found the 3850 was a direct copy of Fairchild F8, and the 3870 had internal ROM right on the processor chip. 64 Bytes RAM, 4Mhz. Still not sure which Atari product might have used it... summer 83 in curts OP puts it in the middle of 14xxXL development though.. Maybe for prototype unreleased expansions, they did talk of Z80, or other expansions for the 1090 expansion box but yours are dated 81... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+kheller2 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 On the Atari Engineering Item Master list (1/13/84) it's just quoted as "IC: 3870 MICROCOMPUTER" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+tf_hh Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 On the Atari Engineering Item Master list (1/13/84) it's just quoted as "IC: 3870 MICROCOMPUTER" Yes, the datasheet shows also some kind of MCU. But it contains a (mask) ROM. I´m wondering about that, Atari most times uses external ROMs/EPROMs (XF551, ST Megafile series, SH204/SH205 and many other Atari products) when standard 8-Bit CPUs like Intel´s 80xx series are used. Maybe I found a way to read out the content :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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