shadow460 Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Which 7800 and their 2600 counterparts go best together? My vote's for Donkey Kong. Also, if there's a 7800 game that doesn't have a 2600 equivalent, tell us what you think the 2600 version would be like (assuming it was a ha;fway decent port). I think 2600 BallBlazer would be played in a top down view, kinda like a cross between Video Checkers and Pong Sports/Video Olympics. The only difference is you'd use the joystick controllers to move the rotofoils around the screen. It should be made along the lines of Blue Print or Bump 'n' Jump so that it's got some light background music. If not that, then made by Activision with the DPC chip. Which pairs do you like best? What would a 2600 port of any 7800 game look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercat Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 I think 2600 BallBlazer would be played in a top down view, kinda like a cross between Video Checkers and Pong Sports/Video Olympics. The only difference is you'd use the joystick controllers to move the rotofoils around the screen. I've not played Beamrider--just seen snapshots--but it would seem a Beamrider-style kernel for Ballblazer could be pretty awesome. Even if it needed a helper chip like Pitfall 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 I have to say Sentinel is one for sure. I look at 2600 Sentinel as "Sentinel 1" and the 7800 Sentinel as "Sentinel 2". You can play them back to back and not get bored, They complement each other very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voch Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 I like both versions of Mario Bros., but then I'm a Mario Bros. addict (I *love* the arcade version...the home versions are good too). Voch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 I like both versions of Centipede and Ms. Pac-Man. I think that Galaxian and Galaga, as well as Pole Position I and II fo together well as sequels apearing on first the 2600 and then the 7800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Thag Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 The DK's work well, so does Pole position, and certainly centipede and Asteroids. Actually, I even kind of like Desert Falcon on the 2600. It's sort of like playing an interactive ink blot test I then have to play the 7800 version to restore my strained vision to normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
128bytes Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I like both versions of Mario Bros., but then I'm a Mario Bros. addict (I *love* the arcade version...the home versions are good too). Voch 929803[/snapback] The two Mario Bros. make a great pair. I even think that 2600 Mario Bros. has better control and more fun gameplay than 7800 Mario Bros. I especially like Rhindle the Red's 2600 Return of Mario Bros. hack, and I'm glad I have it on cartridge. For Centipede/Millipede: I find 2600 Millipede to be my favorite as a 1 player game, but 7800 Centipede is awesome in "2 players at the same time" mode. 7800 Dark Chambers is much more fun than 2600 Dark Chambers, but 2600 Dark Chambers is an impressive technical feat... I also think the 2 Ms. Pac Man's are a great pair - especially if you think of the 2600 Ms. Pac as training wheels for the harder 7800 Ms. Pac. One more thing -- both Q*berts are great -- I have been really enjoing the 7800 Q*bert homebrew on my CCII lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HP Atari King of Michigan Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Ms. Pac-Man and Centipede is the only two carts (that I know of) that's seen life on the 2600, 5200, AND 7800 respectively. I think Ms. Pac-Man was also on the Lynx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FujiSkunk Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 (edited) Asteroids makes a good 2600/7800 pair. Both have unique features that make each a must-have. The same goes for Centipede. Ms. Pac-Man, Dig-Dug and Joust are also good to have on both. The 7800 versions give you better graphics, the 2600 versions give you more variety, and both sets give you addictive game play. The 7800 wins hands down on most other games, including Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Junior, Mario Brothers, Crossbow, Dark Chambers and Desert Falcon. The 2600 versions are not without merit (generally speaking), but to someone who isn't a collector, they do not really offer anything beyond what's in the 7800 versions. Edited September 13, 2005 by skunkworx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Laird Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 Centipede was also on the Lynx but only in proto form. Its a shame Missile Command was never released for the 7800 as then it would have been on every Atari console. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-in-NJ Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Lord Thag said: Actually, I even kind of like Desert Falcon on the 2600. It's sort of like playing an interactive ink blot test I've only played it in emulation, and I typically die really quickly. Is it as bad on genuine hardware? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercat Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Its a shame Missile Command was never released for the 7800 as then it would have been on every Atari console. 930607[/snapback] Missile Command really requires a high-resolution bitmap screen to be done 'right'. It would be theoretically possible to make the game work using display lists, but the code for it would be downright bizarre. I suppose, given that Impossible Mission used an 8Kx8 RAM there's no particular reason why a Missile Command cart couldn't have done likewise (though 16K RAM would be better). BTW, given 2K or more of RAM, a 2600 can do a very nice Missile Command (RF's version is great too, but the RAM+ version can support lots of independent missiles and explosions). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow460 Posted September 17, 2005 Author Share Posted September 17, 2005 Lord Thag said: Actually, I even kind of like Desert Falcon on the 2600. It's sort of like playing an interactive ink blot test I've only played it in emulation, and I typically die really quickly. Is it as bad on genuine hardware? 933143[/snapback] I'd say yes, but I've never played Desert Falcon under emulation. It's a pretty common cart, so you might be able to find one. Try to take it easy--land when you need a slowdown in the action. Also, use your arrows to determine if you're gonna hit a wall or something. If they ain't killing the enemies, you shoot at, then take evasive action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockman_x_2002 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 I would say that I like the Ms. Pac-Man pair best. While obviously the 7800 has the closest-to-arcade experience, the 2600 version is fairly well done and I tend to play both of them quite a bit. As for 7800 games that didn't find a home on the 2600, I sometimes wonder what "Food Fight" might've turned out like on the 2600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HP Atari King of Michigan Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I just remembered! Dig Dug was also made for the 2600, 5200, and 7800. I own all three versions of Dig Dug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I just remembered! Dig Dug was also made for the 2600, 5200, and 7800. I own all three versions of Dig Dug. 950285[/snapback] And they are all 3 quite good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickHarrisMaine Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Me too, I like the 5200 one the best though. By the way, I own all 3 versions of Mario Bros. I like the 7800 one the best on that one, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdub_bobby Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 (edited) As for 7800 games that didn't find a home on the 2600, I sometimes wonder what "Food Fight" might've turned out like on the 2600. I made a mockup a couple of weeks ago. Here's the pic; details at the link: You could make a pretty good translation, I think. Edited October 18, 2005 by vdub_bobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdub_bobby Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 (edited) Just for kicks, I went through the AA database and made a list of games that were made for both the 2600 and the 7800. It's a pretty extensive list: Asteroids Burgertime (Beef Drop on 7800) Centipede Commando Crossbow Dark Chambers Desert Falcon Dig-Dug Donkey Kong Donkey Kong Jr. Double Dragon Fatal Run Ikari Warriors Joust Kung-Fu Master Mario Bros. Ms. Pac-Man Pete Rose Baseball Rampage Realsports Baseball Sentinel Summer Games Tomcat: The F-14 Simulator Winter Games Xenophobe Also... Xevious: 7800 release, 2600 prototype KLAX: 2600 release, 7800 prototype I think that's accurate. EDIT: It turns out it wasn't accurate; surprise, surprise. Anyway, added into the list the missing games mentioned. Edited October 19, 2005 by vdub_bobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckwalla Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Dig Dug, Ms. Pac Man, Donkey Kong, and Joust.... AND, i'd still be interested to see a serious effort for a 2600 Robotron :!: :!: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Tyler Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Just for kicks, I went through the AA database and made a list of games that were made for both the 2600 and the 7800. It's a pretty extensive list: Asteroids Centipede Commando Crossbow Dark Chambers Desert Falcon Dig-Dug Donkey Kong Donkey Kong Jr. Double Dragon Fatal Run Ikari Warriors Joust Mario Bros. Ms. Pac-Man Pete Rose Baseball Rampage Realsports Baseball Summer Games Tomcat: The F-14 Simulator Winter Games Xenophobe Also... Xevious: 7800 release, 2600 prototype KLAX: 2600 release, 7800 prototype I think that's accurate. 950436[/snapback] You left out Kung-Fu Master, but then again, the only difference between the 2600 and 7800 version is the graphics detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 He also forgot sentinel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FujiSkunk Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 If you want to count hacks and homebrews, then we also have Pac-Man, Q*Bert, and Frogger. We even have Pac-Man Plus, arguably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdub_bobby Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 If you want to count hacks and homebrews, then we also have Pac-Man, Q*Bert, and Frogger. We even have Pac-Man Plus, arguably. 950855[/snapback] Well...I wouldn't count hacks. And Q*Bert and Frogger aren't finished/released yet. Though I should have counted Burgertime/Beef Drop, which is completed. I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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