Troytn Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 I see these are the same games. Can anyone tell me if they play differently or LOOK differently as far as graphics? If I were to buy one is there one better than the other? Thanks Troy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 From what I know, the games are exactly the same. I do not own Defender II. I would guess that the title screen has been replaced. Other than that I don't think there are any code differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Yes, its the same. Only the titlescreen is changed. The strangest is: I have buy a shrinkwraped Stargate (PAL). But inside was a Defender II (PAL). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnenhexer Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Really funny. All games I bought shrinkwrapped are still shrinkwrapped, so I dunno what´s inside. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Really funny. All games I bought shrinkwrapped are still shrinkwrapped, so I dunno what´s inside. Small bricks and some hot air? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnenhexer Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 I don´t hope so. I bought them from Klassische-Videospiele, formerly Lord-Chaos. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troytn Posted July 19, 2002 Author Share Posted July 19, 2002 thanks for the input... Troy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 I'm digging this topic up, but I know that Williams changed the name from Stargate to Defender II because of 'legal reasons'.. Anyone have an idea on what those legal reasons are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 It doesn't matter which version you get, both are exactly the same except for the title screen. Personally, I like Defender II, the title is better and it's a red label, but if you like originals, pick up Stargate. It's all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 It doesn't matter which version you get, both are exactly the same except for the title screen. Personally, I like Defender II, the title is better and it's a red label, but if you like originals, pick up Stargate. It's all good. I have Stargate already, but even on the emulation packs for the PC and the PSX, it's Defender II... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 VidKidz did the design of the game under contract from Williams.. then I think Williams renamed it Defender II later to make sure they owned the Trademark on the name. Also according to the "Williams Arcade Classics" disc for the psx, Williams programmers were the ones who reprogramed the title screen on the 2600 version. Interesting.. Anyway.. doesn't matter to me, I'll always ONLY know it as STARGATE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spector Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Would it be possible to hack this game so that the clear-screen bombs can be activated by the second fire button on your joypad? I'm sure a lot of people use Sega joypads to play atari games- a pity that other fire button can't be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xot Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 I'm digging this topic up, but I know that Williams changed the name from Stargate to Defender II because of 'legal reasons'.. Anyone have an idea on what those legal reasons are? I seem to remember there being someone else who had produced a board game or something like it called Stargate, and the issue was only brought up when the game was ported to home systems. There is no such thing as a Defender II arcade game. All IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Yes I believe Xot is correct. It was something very stupid like that. Has anybody looked through the code to see if they are indeed the same game (other than the title screen). I mean we only recently found out that Rubik's Cube and Atari Video Cube were actually slightly different. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witchfynde Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Has anybody looked through the code to see if they are indeed the same game (other than the title screen). I mean we only recently found out that Rubik's Cube and Atari Video Cube were actually slightly different. Tempest That's weird; what are the differences in those two games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Just some color differences. You can check out my pages here: http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/v...e/videocube.htm http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/r.../rubikscube.htm Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room 34 Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 I'm digging this topic up, but I know that Williams changed the name from Stargate to Defender II because of 'legal reasons'.. Anyone have an idea on what those legal reasons are? I always assumed it had something to do with the completely-unrelated sci-fi movie "Stargate." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 I'm digging this topic up, but I know that Williams changed the name from Stargate to Defender II because of 'legal reasons'.. Anyone have an idea on what those legal reasons are? I always assumed it had something to do with the completely-unrelated sci-fi movie "Stargate." IIRC, Stargate came out AFTER midway/williams changed the name of the game.. I could be wrong though, and have been on at least 1 occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic George 2K3 Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Doesn't really matter to me what it's called...the Atari 2600 version of Defender II/Stargate only showed that they could have used the Video Touch Pad for activating the smart bombs, hyperspace, and Inviso instead of the lousy second joystick setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Yeah, the Stargate movie came out in the 90's. Doesn't really matter to me what it's called...the Atari 2600 version of Defender II/Stargate only showed that they could have used the Video Touch Pad for activating the smart bombs, hyperspace, and Inviso instead of the lousy second joystick setup. I don't even worry about the second joystick, all I need is my laser cannon and I'm ready to go. It's a lot harder, but much more of a challenge, and the 2nd joystick's always there should I really need it. I think the Video Touch Pad was dead by the silver label era, at least I can't think of any silver games that use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic George 2K3 Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 I think the Video Touch Pad was dead by the silver label era, at least I can't think of any silver games that use it. It was dead because the thing was marketed as a game-selling gimmick for the Atari 2600 Star Raiders rather than as an intended true replacement for the keypad controller. With the "video games as a fad" mentality that existed even within Atari at the time, it was no wonder that the Video Touch Pad would be treated like a one-night-stand thing for gamers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 I don't think it was used because Atari figured if people didn't buy Star Raiders, they wouldn't have the Touch Pad, so why bother marketing Defender II for use with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 I don't think it was used because Atari figured if people didn't buy Star Raiders, they wouldn't have the Touch Pad, so why bother marketing Defender II for use with it? Hey Thomas... I think we have your next project! Hacking Defender2 / Stargate to use the Video Touch Pad controller.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 That's a good idea. Everything right there in front of you would be cool, I could maybe even get used to using the extra features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Even better would be selling a modified 5200 controller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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