nagn2 Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 (edited) I recently picked up 2 Atari 2600 games at a garage sale. One was " The Music Machine" which I researched and found out was a very rare game. The other one I picked up is titled "Red Sea Crossing". I can't find any information on it at all. I would appreciate any information anyone has on this game. The label says "1983 Steve Stack, Inc. Inspirational Video Concepts" and then lists a phone number below it. Here are some screen shots. I will try to make a movie of me playing it also. What is a homebrew? Also what is the difference between a hack and a fake.? Also , how do I open the cartridge? I do appreciate the help! Edited September 16, 2007 by nagn2 Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Screenshots? Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1370977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 (edited) Well, I couldn't find anything on this one yet. It looks like some reli-game. Just like Music Machine. Some screenshots would be great. Edited September 15, 2007 by Rom Hunter Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gateway Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 (edited) Perhaps Steve Stack was an independent publisher and/or homebrewer at the time? Hopefully this is not a fake. EDIT: The case appears to be a grip case similar to Apollo carts and the label was handcut and glued Edited September 15, 2007 by Gateway Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Yeah I am with the others. Lets see some screen shots Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 HOAX hands all over this one. Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 (edited) I give it the benefit of the doubt. nagn2, Before everyone starts accusing you of everything, it would be a good thing to show us some screenshots of the game, or even better: a little movie of the game while playing it. Also, to find out if it's a genuine cart from the old era, it has to be opened to show us the inner side of the cart. After that, we can tell you if it's an original, a hack, a homebrew, or a hoax (and perhaps even give it a 'proper' price tag). Anyway, I can assure you: this is the place to be to find out more about this game. There's an awful lot of knowledge gathered on this forum. Again: thanks for sharing! It looks like an interesting find. Edited September 16, 2007 by Rom Hunter Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagn2 Posted September 16, 2007 Author Share Posted September 16, 2007 Here are some screen shots. I will try to make a movie of me playing it also. What is a homebrew? Also what is the difference between a hack and a fake.? Also , how do I open the cartridge? I do appreciate the help! Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Looks unknown and real. Where are you located? Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 (edited) Ok, after quite some digging I found out that this toll free number isn't connected to Steve Stack, Inc. anymore. Also the company doesn't exist under this name anymore. In short: the information on this cart is outdated indeed (whitch matches with the 1983 copyright year). If someone wants to make a hoax cart nowadays, where does he gets the idea from to put this outdated information on the label? IMO it's very well possible that this cart was indeed (home)made in 1983. Nagn2, by looking at your screenshots, I can say that this is not a hack of an already existing game. It looks like an original indeed. BTW: a hack is a game that's based on the code of an already existing, original game. For example, Tom Boy http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?...ERSION_ID=12339 is a hack of the original Pitfall! http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?...6895&MENU=2 Edited September 16, 2007 by Rom Hunter Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 (edited) Ok, after quite some digging I found out that this toll free number isn't connected to Steve Stack, Inc. anymore. Also the company doesn't exist under this name anymore. In short: the information on this cart is outdated indeed (whitch matches with the 1983 copyright year). I didn't find any information on the web too. It could be the real thing or (another) hoax by a talented homebrewer. Scrutinizing the cart and ROM will show the truth. Edited September 16, 2007 by Thomas Jentzsch Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagn2 Posted September 16, 2007 Author Share Posted September 16, 2007 Ok, after quite some digging I found out that this toll free number isn't connected to Steve Stack, Inc. anymore. Also the company doesn't exist under this name anymore. In short: the information on this cart is outdated indeed (whitch matches with the 1983 copyright year). If someone wants to make a hoax cart nowadays, where does he gets the idea from to put this outdated information on the label? IMO it's very well possible that this cart was indeed (home)made in 1983. Nagn2, by looking at your screenshots, I can say that this is not a hack of an already existing game. It looks like an original indeed. I appreciate your help! Do home made cartridges have any value? I too wouldn't think it is fake as I only paid 50 cents for it. It would seem like a lot of trouble for that kind of money. Thanks for all the help. Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 (edited) Nagn2, Showing the inner part of the cart can tell us more about its true age, but please be careful not to damage the cart if you decide to open it. If it's really an original game from 1983 (homebrew or not), then you're a very lucky person. Edited September 16, 2007 by Rom Hunter Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagn2 Posted September 16, 2007 Author Share Posted September 16, 2007 I am in Ohio. If this is a home made cartridge, does it have any value? Looks unknown and real. Where are you located? Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagn2 Posted September 16, 2007 Author Share Posted September 16, 2007 How do I open the cartridge? If it has any screws it must be under the label! Nagn2, Please be careful not to damage the cart if you decide to open it. Showing the inner part of the cart can tell us more about its true age. Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 (edited) I am in Ohio. If this is a home made cartridge, does it have any value? I am no collector, but if you can prove this thing is real, I bet some will pay really hefty money for it. You should go back where you found it and try to get some background information about the cart(s). Edited September 16, 2007 by Thomas Jentzsch Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 (edited) I am in Ohio. If this is a home made cartridge, does it have any value?If it's really from the early eighties, then yes. That's why showing the inner part is quite essential. But please don't damage the label! If you're feeling uncertain about opening the cart safely, then don't. Edited September 16, 2007 by Rom Hunter Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 How do I open the cartridge? If it has any screws it must be under the label! I would say, don't open it now. Maybe you can make a shot inside through the cart slot? Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Good idea, Thomas. Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Anyone in Ohio who can help dumping the ROM? Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagn2 Posted September 16, 2007 Author Share Posted September 16, 2007 How do I open the cartridge? If it has any screws it must be under the label! I would say, don't open it now. Maybe you can make a shot inside through the cart slot? Here are some pictures of the slot. I hope they help. Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Can you shoot inside? Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagn2 Posted September 16, 2007 Author Share Posted September 16, 2007 Can you shoot inside? What exactly do you mean by "inside"? I don't see any way to open it without damaging the label. Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 (edited) I'm afraid there's too little to see, nagn2. Maybe a closer shot (with flash) could reveal more. Could you tell me something more about the gameplay? What are you suppose to do in the game? Is it actually playable and does it feel 'finished'? Edited September 16, 2007 by Rom Hunter Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari_Warlord Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Anyone in Ohio who can help dumping the ROM? I'm in the Dayton area and have the ability to dump it. Al is in the Cleveland area. Any idea what part of Ohio they are in? I'd be glad to help. Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/113497-help-information-on-red-sea-crossing/#findComment-1371420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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