icbrkr Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Friend called me up and said that he had a 1040STf, drive, and monitor and would I like it for a few bucks? Duh So anyways, I'm going to ask the same questions everyone asks though I've tried to track down some answers before I went through this whole posting thing. Anyways, I already know I'm pretty much SOL for writing disk images on my PC... since it's a Mac and it requires a real floppy drive controller and not USB. So, tried PC-Task on the Amiga and it can't handle above 80 tracks from within the program. So... what it comes down to is that I can carry the images over to the ST, unzip them on the ST but.. how? Basically I'm trying to track down a program for the ST that can make real floppies on a basic system. The part about unzipping 800K images on a 720K disk I haven't figured out yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Friend called me up and said that he had a 1040STf, drive, and monitor and would I like it for a few bucks? Duh So anyways, I'm going to ask the same questions everyone asks though I've tried to track down some answers before I went through this whole posting thing. Anyways, I already know I'm pretty much SOL for writing disk images on my PC... since it's a Mac and it requires a real floppy drive controller and not USB. So, tried PC-Task on the Amiga and it can't handle above 80 tracks from within the program. So... what it comes down to is that I can carry the images over to the ST, unzip them on the ST but.. how? Basically I'm trying to track down a program for the ST that can make real floppies on a basic system. The part about unzipping 800K images on a 720K disk I haven't figured out yet. Best bet for writing all MSA/ST images to disk is get a Win XP PC and use the tool Floppy Image (Google it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98PaceCar Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Friend called me up and said that he had a 1040STf, drive, and monitor and would I like it for a few bucks? Duh So anyways, I'm going to ask the same questions everyone asks though I've tried to track down some answers before I went through this whole posting thing. Anyways, I already know I'm pretty much SOL for writing disk images on my PC... since it's a Mac and it requires a real floppy drive controller and not USB. So, tried PC-Task on the Amiga and it can't handle above 80 tracks from within the program. So... what it comes down to is that I can carry the images over to the ST, unzip them on the ST but.. how? Basically I'm trying to track down a program for the ST that can make real floppies on a basic system. The part about unzipping 800K images on a 720K disk I haven't figured out yet. I haven't had a chance to test it out yet (still need a low res monitor for my Mega), but I ran across this when I was researching how to make disks. http://www.ppest.org/atari/imgrun.php I'd be curious if you can get it to work. If you want, I can write it to a disk and send it out to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I haven't had a chance to test it out yet (still need a low res monitor for my Mega), but I ran across this when I was researching how to make disks. I think you were looking for this http://ppest.org/atari/floimgd.php floimg works like a charm for writing real floppies, but it only runs on a PC and only on internal floppy drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I haven't had a chance to test it out yet (still need a low res monitor for my Mega), but I ran across this when I was researching how to make disks. I think you were looking for this http://ppest.org/atari/floimgd.php floimg works like a charm for writing real floppies, but it only runs on a PC and only on internal floppy drives. so do you think it would work with my old dell laptop? It has a kind of internal floppy drive, which can be unplugged and a CD drive put in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppera Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 (edited) .... The part about unzipping 800K images on a 720K disk I haven't figured out yet. I'm 'responsible' for Windows program Floppy Image (FloImg). Since you can not use it, I can recommend you one partial solution - it will work not with all image files, but likely will work with 80-90% of MSA ones. First thing is that you format floppies to 800K, and not 720K. There is a format program for Atari ST which can it: http://www.ppest.org/atari/floimgd.php (about middle of page) I don't know will it be usable on Amiga. Set format of 800KB, not more (80 tracks, 2 sides, 10 sec/trk.). It is perfect reliable on ST. Second thing is to use MSA image format instead ST format. Because MSA may be compressed, and most of such images on WEB is compressed. So, write MSA image to floppy (may fit usually on 720K floppy), then write it on another (but may on same too) floppy with Trackcopy: http://www.ppest.org/atari/imgrun.php (at bottom). With this you have ready to run floppy on ST. Just need to restart machine. Edited December 10, 2007 by ppera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icbrkr Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 .... The part about unzipping 800K images on a 720K disk I haven't figured out yet. I'm 'responsible' for Windows program Floppy Image (FloImg). Since you can not use it, I can recommend you one partial solution - it will work not with all image files, but likely will work with 80-90% of MSA ones. First thing is that you format floppies to 800K, and not 720K. There is a format program for Atari ST which can it: http://www.ppest.org/atari/floimgd.php (about middle of page) I don't know will it be usable on Amiga. Set format of 800KB, not more (80 tracks, 2 sides, 10 sec/trk.). It is perfect reliable on ST. Second thing is to use MSA image format instead ST format. Because MSA may be compressed, and most of such images on WEB is compressed. So, write MSA image to floppy (may fit usually on 720K floppy), then write it on another (but may on same too) floppy with Trackcopy: http://www.ppest.org/atari/imgrun.php (at bottom). With this you have ready to run floppy on ST. Just need to restart machine. Got the format program working, and the Amiga doesn't have a problem at all writing to 800K disks in DOS format. The next question is this - I tried placing tracc.acc onto a bootable TOS disk (assuming that's what I do with it) and it tries to boot to GEM and proceedes to clear the screen over and over again (and thus, never getting into the program). Suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icbrkr Posted December 12, 2007 Author Share Posted December 12, 2007 .... The part about unzipping 800K images on a 720K disk I haven't figured out yet. I'm 'responsible' for Windows program Floppy Image (FloImg). Since you can not use it, I can recommend you one partial solution - it will work not with all image files, but likely will work with 80-90% of MSA ones. First thing is that you format floppies to 800K, and not 720K. There is a format program for Atari ST which can it: http://www.ppest.org/atari/floimgd.php (about middle of page) I don't know will it be usable on Amiga. Set format of 800KB, not more (80 tracks, 2 sides, 10 sec/trk.). It is perfect reliable on ST. Second thing is to use MSA image format instead ST format. Because MSA may be compressed, and most of such images on WEB is compressed. So, write MSA image to floppy (may fit usually on 720K floppy), then write it on another (but may on same too) floppy with Trackcopy: http://www.ppest.org/atari/imgrun.php (at bottom). With this you have ready to run floppy on ST. Just need to restart machine. Got the format program working, and the Amiga doesn't have a problem at all writing to 800K disks in DOS format. The next question is this - I tried placing tracc.acc onto a bootable TOS disk (assuming that's what I do with it) and it tries to boot to GEM and proceedes to clear the screen over and over again (and thus, never getting into the program). Suggestions? And success! Brought over some MSA images, used MSA 2.3 to convert them back to disk. Now to enjoy some ST gaming goodness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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