retrogeek Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Is there a list of compatible SyQuest drives for the Atari ST? I've heard certain SyQuest drives are compatible but I am not sure which ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoggingHell Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Is there a list of compatible SyQuest drives for the Atari ST? I've heard certain SyQuest drives are compatible but I am not sure which ones. I don't know of any list but I used to have an Ezflyer 230mb Syquest drive and the lower capacity drives all worked as well (one Syquest drive was released as an Atari badged product). They were appalling though but a cheap way of getting extra storage at the time. When my Ezflyer died it zapped my Falcon at the same time.. :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrogeek Posted April 2, 2008 Author Share Posted April 2, 2008 Is there a list of compatible SyQuest drives for the Atari ST? I've heard certain SyQuest drives are compatible but I am not sure which ones. I don't know of any list but I used to have an Ezflyer 230mb Syquest drive and the lower capacity drives all worked as well (one Syquest drive was released as an Atari badged product). They were appalling though but a cheap way of getting extra storage at the time. When my Ezflyer died it zapped my Falcon at the same time.. :-( I would imagine the lower capacity drives require software of some kind and a special cable? I'm really sorry to hear about your Falcon --maybe these drives aren't that great after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lp060 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 (edited) I've used a few SyQuest models, just stick to the ones with SCSI ports. Simply put, when a cart is inserted, it acts like a normal SCSI drive. If a cart is larger than the capacity that your system can handle, just partition it into several smaller partitions. Hot swapping the carts depends on your hard disk driver mostly. Edited April 2, 2008 by lp060 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jens Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 You can't boot off these drives as your only hard drive btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarian1 Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 You can't boot off these drives as your only hard drive btw. Not true. It's the Zip drive that you can't boot off of as your only drive (unless you rig up a power supply to the ACSI/SCSI host adapter and use a hard disk driver that supported booting off SCSI ID 5) Syquest drives were high quality drives that followed SCSI standards which worked on all known SCSI systems. Iomega Zip drives were cheap quality drives that didn't follow all SCSI standards which caused problems like the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrogeek Posted April 4, 2008 Author Share Posted April 4, 2008 (edited) You can't boot off these drives as your only hard drive btw. Not true. It's the Zip drive that you can't boot off of as your only drive (unless you rig up a power supply to the ACSI/SCSI host adapter and use a hard disk driver that supported booting off SCSI ID 5) Syquest drives were high quality drives that followed SCSI standards which worked on all known SCSI systems. Iomega Zip drives were cheap quality drives that didn't follow all SCSI standards which caused problems like the above. This is good to hear! I found a SCSI SyQuest 44mb drive for dirt cheap ($20) so all I need is a cable and case. I hate to ask such a noobish question but will I need to find software or will it work independently? Edited April 4, 2008 by retrogeek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 (edited) You can't boot off these drives as your only hard drive btw. Not true. It's the Zip drive that you can't boot off of as your only drive (unless you rig up a power supply to the ACSI/SCSI host adapter and use a hard disk driver that supported booting off SCSI ID 5) Syquest drives were high quality drives that followed SCSI standards which worked on all known SCSI systems. Iomega Zip drives were cheap quality drives that didn't follow all SCSI standards which caused problems like the above. This is good to hear! I found a SCSI SyQuest 44mb drive for dirt cheap ($20) so all I need is a cable and case. I hate to ask such a noobish question but will I need to find software or will it work independently? You will need a SCSI host adaptor and Software yes. The software is not built into the 192k TOS. ICD Tools 6.22 is the way to go, or if you want buy HD Driver 8.x (the best but costs double the cost of your Syquest drive) I can boot off my Syquest 105 and Zip 100 drives no problem... Edited April 4, 2008 by tjlazer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Syquest drives were high quality drives that followed SCSI standards which worked on all known SCSI systems. Iomega Zip drives were cheap quality drives that didn't follow all SCSI standards which caused problems like the above. I'll second that, the Syquest units were top shelf. The Zip and the later Jaz while ubiquitous and very handy were built cheaply. The Jaz especially. I must have returned over 50K $ in bad drives and 1GB carts back in the day. The carts would go bad if you looked at them funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrogeek Posted April 4, 2008 Author Share Posted April 4, 2008 You will need a SCSI host adaptor and Software yes. The software is not built into the 192k TOS. ICD Tools 6.22 is the way to go, or if you want buy HD Driver 8.x (the best but costs double the cost of your Syquest drive) I can boot off my Syquest 105 and Zip 100 drives no problem... Thank you for the information! I'll begin searching for the SCSI host adapter and the software; wish me luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoggingHell Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 You will need a SCSI host adaptor and Software yes. The software is not built into the 192k TOS. ICD Tools 6.22 is the way to go, or if you want buy HD Driver 8.x (the best but costs double the cost of your Syquest drive) I can boot off my Syquest 105 and Zip 100 drives no problem... Thank you for the information! I'll begin searching for the SCSI host adapter and the software; wish me luck! Oh BTW if your using it on an ST as your 'main' drive with the Link cable you may have to carry out several resets of the computer to get the ST to recognise the Syquest, or at least you had to with my Ezflyer, it was a right pain! (though an earlier model might work a bit better) I think any of the hard drive software worked, I settled on good old fashioned AHDI when I used mine but as has been said ICD is better overall. Don't worry about the Falcon I got it fixed! Cost me an arm and a leg though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 I had a Toadfile 44 and I added a 48 MB Seagate drive to the empty drive bay - worked great Toadfile 44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Syquest drives were high quality drives that followed SCSI standards which worked on all known SCSI systems. Iomega Zip drives were cheap quality drives that didn't follow all SCSI standards which caused problems like the above. I'll second that, the Syquest units were top shelf. The Zip and the later Jaz while ubiquitous and very handy were built cheaply. The Jaz especially. I must have returned over 50K $ in bad drives and 1GB carts back in the day. The carts would go bad if you looked at them funny. I second that, nothing but problems with the JAZ drives. Zip have not been too bad, but there was the infamous 'Click of Death' LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lp060 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 I second that, nothing but problems with the JAZ drives. Zip have not been too bad, but there was the infamous 'Click of Death' LOL That 'click of death' happened to my Zip drive. Replaced it with a SyQuest 105 and never had another issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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