+Psionic Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 (edited) Based on the current threads not sure why I should continue with new levels and games, if they will be stolen withoutgiving me credit or renumeration. Nothing could be further from the truth. People would have been happy to compensate you for your work had you simply been upfront from the beginning. If you are Robert L. Esken of Dayton Ohio, I was the one that contacted you via telephone back when the Gamma Attack cartridge was found. I spoke to your wife and asked to speak with you about a company from 1982 called Gammation. She told me I had the wrong person. She told me that the Bob Esken I was looking for had died (apparently your father). I asked her if you were related to him...she said no. Even if I had the wrong person, Waggie also sent you a letter (which you did not respond to)... If it was a letter,and you kept it, what is the date in the top left? I sent a letter to your attention but never heard back. Obviously my phone call and/or Waggie's letter tipped you off about Gamma Attack, but rather than just post on the boards and identify yourself, you sit back and watch while saying little. A PM I sent you asking to identify yourself went unanswered. Now, you suddenly show up here demanding that people respect your copyright and trying to sell the ROM image and reproduction cartridges at extravagant prices? No offense, but after all this, you expect to be taken seriously? If you are who you say you are, this is by far the most bizarre chain of events I've ever seen in this hobby. Edited April 4, 2008 by PingvinBlueJeans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 5 Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 This is so much fun. I swear this tops the Landfill and Knight Rider threads and nobody has even mentioned Armor All yet. It just doesn't get better than this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireTiger Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Hey what's the difference in the two BINs Shawn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Hey what's the difference in the two BINs Shawn? looks like the one he made way built from screen shots with bataribasic, or small chance it's a real copy altered with bataribasic. either way this guy is full of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holygrailvideogames.com Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 (edited) Hey what's the difference in the two BINs Shawn? looks like the one he made way built from screen shots with bataribasic, or small chance it's a real copy altered with bataribasic. either way this guy is full of shit. Maybe I will be wrong but I think the guy is legit. I think that you should remove the rom. If he does have any claim to the rom you could be opening up Al to problems. Edited April 4, 2008 by holygrailvideogames.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 looks like the one he made way built from screen shots with bataribasic, or small chance it's a real copy altered with bataribasic. either way this guy is full of shit. I am just scrutinizing both ROMs. So far they backup his story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireTiger Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 looks like the one he made way built from screen shots with bataribasic, or small chance it's a real copy altered with bataribasic. either way this guy is full of shit. I am just scrutinizing both ROMs. So far they backup his story. Which story, Shawn's or gamecrawler's? It would be awesome to get a programmer on here to make new games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Which story, Shawn's or gamecrawler's? gamecrawler's. Though I just found him using "illegal" opcodes. Very unusual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Which story, Shawn's or gamecrawler's? gamecrawler's. Though I just found him using "illegal" opcodes. Very unusual. funny, looks like he waited a little too long to come out of the wood work. All the trouble in the world went into finding out about any copyright and there isn't one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireTiger Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Maybe it wasn't worth his time till money changed hands... ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 The Demo contains some VERY unusual code. E.g. 7800 auto detection code (from batari!) and llegal opcodes. I am starting to wonder who is behind this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 (edited) Maybe it wasn't worth his time till money changed hands... ??? Nope, he has no copyright even if he is the dude's kid. He has lied from the get go months if he is the guy's kid. Anyhow carts to date are going out in about 3 weeks. I'll let buddy sell his for $150 a crack from now on, you want one now go to buddy and spend $150 I'm fluckn' not dealing with the drama. edit: Seeing as the rom is out there and at least 30 folks go it I'm taking it down to avoid drama also. EDIT #2: looks like I dont have to as it's already gone. Edited April 4, 2008 by Shawn Sr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 You know I remember a time when this used to be a nice community, freely sharing finds and an interesting place to hang out but now there are just too many cranks on here to make it worthwhile hanging around. Wake me up when normality returns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmosiss Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Thank you for the ROM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psionic Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 I bought my brother a 2600 cartridge that would allow u to write small programs in the 2600. The associated manual gave out ATARI information on it's graphic & sound registers. Are you referring to the MagiCard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari_Warlord Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 (edited) FYI, the address I used was not the partial one given in the other thread. So the lady you spoke with might have been truthful. I was hoping he could give me the date of my letter, so I could confirm it is the same person without personal information being used. Edited April 4, 2008 by Waggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psionic Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 (edited) FYI, the address I used was not the partial one given in the other thread. So the lady you spoke with might have been truthful. I was hoping he could give me the date of my letter, so I could confirm it is the same person without personal information being used. I see...either way, one (or both) of us obviously had the right person. So we still don't have a clear story here. This sounds bogus...way too many inconsistencies. I'd be interested to know how this guy plans on making cartridges. Where is he getting the boards and shells from? Edited April 4, 2008 by PingvinBlueJeans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwan-iwanowitsch-goratschin Posted April 4, 2008 Author Share Posted April 4, 2008 FYI, the address I used was not the partial one given in the other thread. So the lady you spoke with might have been truthful. I was hoping he could give me the date of my letter, so I could confirm it is the same person without personal information being used. Where is he getting the boards and shells from? That should be no problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 looks like the one he made way built from screen shots with bataribasic, or small chance it's a real copy altered with bataribasic. bBasic was indeed used for the demo screen. That's where the 7800 auto-detect and illegal opcodes are coming from. The original Gamma code was integrated into this bBasic frame. All addresses have been changed, so this is not a hack of the original ROM, but a reassembly. Either based on the original source code or from a disassembly of the known ROM. So the demo binary proves nothing. Only the original source code he claims to have will proove if he is telling the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Thank you, Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 All folks that have got a cart paid for from me, they will be shipping in about 3 weeks. All in the USA will be sent with DC also, international will be with normal air mail. 82 out of 100 of the limited editions are gone, i dunno whats gonna happen with the other 18 of them but they are not for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwan-iwanowitsch-goratschin Posted April 4, 2008 Author Share Posted April 4, 2008 All folks that have got a cart paid for from me, they will be shipping in about 3 weeks. All in the USA will be sent with DC also, international will be with normal air mail. 82 out of 100 of the limited editions are gone, i dunno whats gonna happen with the other 18 of them but they are not for sale. Landfill, Landfill............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamecrawler Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Sorry for this mess & drama, I waited so I could be sure my IP was protected. Both the copyrights & trademarks were submitted thru legalzoom and I have been notified by the US Patent & Copyright Office & Trademark Office that they have been received. It may be months before they posted. I am done with this drama & If u guys include copyright GAM 83 as shown on the original screen and copyright Gammation 1983 on program content on box &manual, with TM marks on mascot & Gammation name if. Thats fine with me. please send me pics of everything sent out, so I can post them on my site. I am done with GammaAttack4, I am reducing my site to memorabilia & a free demo download. Hopefully, I will be back with a newer version & new games. bob e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 5 Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 I love a happy ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 (edited) Hi Bob E, As the copyright holder (with or without the paperwork!), here's hoping you'll see some sort of royalty payment on the 82 or however many that are being made. Thanks, 5-11under Edit: Best wishes for any future programming - just don't make 1 or 2 cartridges. Edited April 4, 2008 by 5-11under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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