robatari Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I've become a bit of an Atari collector, and over the last few months have got a few consoles (2600,7800,XEGS) on eBay. In the last few weeks I've kept my eye out for a 5200, but not one has appeared on eBay, and I can't see much else online. Are PAL 5200's hard to come by? And if one does show on eBay, does anyone know what sort or price it would fetch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I've become a bit of an Atari collector, and over the last few months have got a few consoles (2600,7800,XEGS) on eBay. In the last few weeks I've kept my eye out for a 5200, but not one has appeared on eBay, and I can't see much else online. Are PAL 5200's hard to come by? And if one does show on eBay, does anyone know what sort or price it would fetch? They're very hard to come by, because they don't exist! The 5200 was never released in PAL format. There may be a few PAL prototypes floating around, but I've never seen one. Although I did own two supposedly PAL 5200 prototype games. You'll have to use an NTSC 5200. Tempest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robatari Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 I've become a bit of an Atari collector, and over the last few months have got a few consoles (2600,7800,XEGS) on eBay. In the last few weeks I've kept my eye out for a 5200, but not one has appeared on eBay, and I can't see much else online. Are PAL 5200's hard to come by? And if one does show on eBay, does anyone know what sort or price it would fetch? They're very hard to come by, because they don't exist! The 5200 was never released in PAL format. There may be a few PAL prototypes floating around, but I've never seen one. Although I did own two supposedly PAL 5200 prototype games. You'll have to use an NTSC 5200. Tempest Thanks for letting me know, at least it all makes a little more sense now! I guess I'll have to scour eBay looking for someone who has reasonable shipping prices to the UK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 But some merchandising,about a 5200 Pal system exists.But when ordering one at my prefered dealer he had to tell me,that this project was cancelled. greetings Walter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I heard that ex atari uk peep daryl still has one of the 5200 PAL proto;s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Since a 5200 is basically an Atari 400, how hard would it be to hack a 5200 for PAL? Of course the games would still be NTSC... Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 might require a bit of work, replacing all the h/w chip set for pal variants and hacking an RF module onto the 5200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Interesting bit from the BIOS: ;---------------------------------------------------------------- ;Only in the 2-port FD32 AD 14 C0 LDA $C014 ;Read PAL register FD35 29 0E AND #$0E ;Mask off bits 1-3 FD37 D0 0F BNE $FD48 ;Jump if system is NTSC FD39 AD E7 BF LDA $BFE7 ;Read PAL byte in cart FD3C C9 15 CMP #$15 ;Be sure it's a PAL cart FD3E F0 08 BEQ $FD48 ; FD40 C9 30 CMP #$30 ; FD42 F0 04 BEQ $FD48 ; FD44 29 02 AND #$02 ; FD46 F0 FE BEQ $FD46 ;If it's not PAL cart hang system ;----------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 (edited) Also you'd probably have to get it video modded for composite/S-video unless by some miracle you own a TV that can handle NTSC over RF... though I hear some new LCD TVs have receivers that go down as far as channel 2... Edited August 19, 2008 by Mayhem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 There definitely should be some floating around from Atari engineering as I have the schematics for the PAL version of the 5200 on file. Curt I heard that ex atari uk peep daryl still has one of the 5200 PAL proto;s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow460 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Also you'd probably have to get it video modded for composite/S-video unless by some miracle you own a TV that can handle NTSC over RF... though I hear some new LCD TVs have receivers that go down as far as channel 2... Dumb question, but can a TV built here in the USA be used for such a purpose in the UK? Better, I wonder if the tuner section of one of our TV's could be hacked into a set from the UK? That would save the cost of shipping and a power converter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robatari Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 Also you'd probably have to get it video modded for composite/S-video unless by some miracle you own a TV that can handle NTSC over RF... though I hear some new LCD TVs have receivers that go down as far as channel 2... So that's my next question! I have a Samsung LCD TV that claims (on the menu screen) to do NTSC over RF. I have no way to check this other than to buy a NTSC console. Otherwise, I guess options are limited. One route is to get an analogue PC tuner card that has an NTSC tuner, but I guess that also has limitations, and I don't really want to have to hook a games console up to the TV. Maybe I'll come back to the 5200 another time........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathtrappomegranate Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I have a Samsung LCD TV that claims (on the menu screen) to do NTSC over RF. I have no way to check this other than to buy a NTSC console. I also have a UK-bought Samsung LCD TV that does accept RF NTSC signals. In fact, I used it with a 5200 once. And I mean *once* - I hated the 5200 and got rid of it immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 It'd be a lot easier for you to just get an NTSC-PAL converter. Curt Also you'd probably have to get it video modded for composite/S-video unless by some miracle you own a TV that can handle NTSC over RF... though I hear some new LCD TVs have receivers that go down as far as channel 2... Dumb question, but can a TV built here in the USA be used for such a purpose in the UK? Better, I wonder if the tuner section of one of our TV's could be hacked into a set from the UK? That would save the cost of shipping and a power converter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadknight Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I too have been looking for an Atari 5200 on ebay. (I live in England). I'm glad I read this, guess I'll have to get an NTSC console. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari5200 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I have a Samsung LCD TV that claims (on the menu screen) to do NTSC over RF. I have no way to check this other than to buy a NTSC console. I also have a UK-bought Samsung LCD TV that does accept RF NTSC signals. In fact, I used it with a 5200 once. And I mean *once* - I hated the 5200 and got rid of it immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mot Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) I have a Samsung LCD TV that claims (on the menu screen) to do NTSC over RF. I have no way to check this other than to buy a NTSC console. I also have a UK-bought Samsung LCD TV that does accept RF NTSC signals. In fact, I used it with a 5200 once. And I mean *once* - I hated the 5200 and got rid of it immediately. Sounds like the Angry Video Game Nerd's video of the 5200! I think this is the link (but I'm at work and the Video Game Nerd is NOT WORK SAFE): Gametrailers.com - ScrewAttack - Angry Video Game Nerd: Atari 5200 ***WARNING incoherent mumblings! form here down*** I like the 5200 but I think you would be better off using an Atari 8bit computer and getting 5200 conversions. There's a question: "Did any one convert 5200 to 8bit and PAL"? (of course, you will need a power converter also) If you got a NTSC tv, would you have to pay the TV TAX on it? unrelated, when UK goes digital, will you have to pay tax on PAL tv's or only the ones that have a digital to PAL converter? Edited August 22, 2008 by Mot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Actually that last point... I don't know. I imagine they'd probably find a way to ensure it was the case... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 Question is, even if you did have a multistandard tv (i.e all PAL, all NTSC and all SECAM) would you still be ablet o use an NTSC 5200 with a PALTranformer or PSU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted August 23, 2008 Share Posted August 23, 2008 If it had the right adapter and it delivered the correct amount of amps, don't see why not. I use a UK power supply for my US Wii, Cube and SNES for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMIK Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Question is, even if you did have a multistandard tv (i.e all PAL, all NTSC and all SECAM) would you still be ablet o use an NTSC 5200 with a PALTranformer or PSU I live in Australia and have a 5200 using a transformer i got from tandy,as long as output is the same your fine. Although having said that I could not find one with 11.5v and ended up using a 12v. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-in-NJ Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 You have some sort of gaming museum, Harmik? I'd love to be able to connect each of my consoles to its own dedicated monitor like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMIK Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 You have some sort of gaming museum, Harmik? I'd love to be able to connect each of my consoles to its own dedicated monitor like that! Thanks the desks are 1.5m long and i fit about 3 to 5 consoles on each, depending on the size of the consoles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 You have some sort of gaming museum, Harmik? I'd love to be able to connect each of my consoles to its own dedicated monitor like that! Thanks the desks are 1.5m long and i fit about 3 to 5 consoles on each, depending on the size of the consoles. I have a similar setup in my basement. I use old school science tables, you can't kill those things... Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMIK Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Since a 5200 is basically an Atari 400, how hard would it be to hack a 5200 for PAL? Of course the games would still be NTSC... Tempest Atari 400,800,800XL and XE NTSC games work fine on PAL hardware there were no changes made to them. Same with Intellivision,Colecovision, Sega Master System and Genesis, 2600 and 7800 will not work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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