the.golden.ax Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Yesterday I didn't win an item that I had been watching for a while. Someone had been chipping away at my proxy for a while, and I was even outbid for a time. They won. The seller sent me a second chance offer today. I asked why the winner didn't buy it. They told me it was because they have xbox and cant use atari. Well, as odd as that sounded I checked for evidence of shill bidding. I found feedback evidence going back 2 years. This is a seller that has been registered for 9 years, has at least three accounts from evidence, and lied to me, plus rigged the auction I wasted my time on. I wrote them back and told them about the evidence but did not present it. I have asked for an appology. The evidence is clear and easy to find, eBay would have to be blind in both eyes not to see it. Question is now, what to do. I was going to give the item as a gift to someone. I don't feature myself paying a cheat. PLEASE don't dig through my bid history to find out who/what item and post it here. Depending on their reply I may post the auction details and evidence I found myself. I want to hear the next reply first. AX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhwolfman Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Yesterday I didn't win an item that I had been watching for a while. Someone had been chipping away at my proxy for a while, and I was even outbid for a time. They won. The seller sent me a second chance offer today. I asked why the winner didn't buy it. They told me it was because they have xbox and cant use atari. Well, as odd as that sounded I checked for evidence of shill bidding. I found feedback evidence going back 2 years. This is a seller that has been registered for 9 years, has at least three accounts from evidence, and lied to me, plus rigged the auction I wasted my time on. I wrote them back and told them about the evidence but did not present it. I have asked for an appology. The evidence is clear and easy to find, eBay would have to be blind in both eyes not to see it. Question is now, what to do. I was going to give the item as a gift to someone. I don't feature myself paying a cheat. PLEASE don't dig through my bid history to find out who/what item and post it here. Depending on their reply I may post the auction details and evidence I found myself. I want to hear the next reply first. AX Post Post Post. Lighting torch even as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thanatos Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 (edited) AX Post Post Post. Lighting torch even as we speak. Seconded! If you have good proof, post away! Edited October 28, 2008 by thanatos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.golden.ax Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 When they replied to my "why" it was being offered to me email with the xbox line, it was within 10 minutes of the offer. I wrote back RIGHT AWAY and it has now been hours without a reply. I'm guessing that they are not going to respond. AX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhwolfman Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 When they replied to my "why" it was being offered to me email with the xbox line, it was within 10 minutes of the offer. I wrote back RIGHT AWAY and it has now been hours without a reply. I'm guessing that they are not going to respond. AX It really doesn't matter what they respond to you. You need to warn the community about this seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.golden.ax Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 (edited) ATARI 2600 System Games Controllers MANUALS LOT ~ MORE (110302378208) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=110302378208 First right click anyplace on this auction. It has a Javascript that pops up "Property of DJRA Designs" The seller was registered Feb-08-99 from Port Jefferson Station, New York Next, click on the "167" feedback rating of the buyer zshadow724z. It will show his 2 feedback as a buyer. The first is from a NO LONGER REGISTERED user named "djra_designs". Click on djra_designs, they have a history of selling what... video games. zshadow724z, sells disney stuff... the other buyer feedback for zshadow724z is from roemar9460sl the very same seller who they won an item from yesterday and supposedly backed out on. roemar9460sl has history and listings of video games and disney stuff registered Feb-08-99 from Port Jefferson Station, New York, the same location as both other accounts, and the same registration date as djra_designs. Recap: djra_designs zshadow724z roemar9460sl Same person, or husband and wife team, evidence of shilling going back a few years at least on the surface (because they were stupid enough to leave feedback for themselves). Conclusion: scum. AX Edited October 28, 2008 by the.golden.ax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holygrailvideogames.com Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 ATARI 2600 System Games Controllers MANUALS LOT ~ MORE (110302378208) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=110302378208 First right click anyplace on this auction. It has a Javascript that pops up "Property of DJRA Designs" The seller was registered Feb-08-99 from Port Jefferson Station, New York Next, click on the "167" feedback rating of the buyer zshadow724z. It will show his 2 feedback as a buyer. The first is from a NO LONGER REGISTERED user named "djra_designs". Click on djra_designs, they have a history of selling what... video games. zshadow724z, sells disney stuff... the other buyer feedback for zshadow724z is from roemar9460sl the very same seller who they won an item from yesterday and supposedly backed out on. roemar9460sl has history and listings of video games and disney stuff registered Feb-08-99 from Port Jefferson Station, New York, the same location as both other accounts, and the same registration date as djra_designs. Recap: djra_designs zshadow724z roemar9460sl Same person, or husband and wife team, evidence of shilling going back a few years at least on the surface (because they were stupid enough to leave feedback for themselves). Conclusion: scum. AX They even leave the same feedback. They don't try real hard to hide it. You should report them to eBay. This is one of the few things that eBay will enforce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Its too bad too. Thats a really nice lot for that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhwolfman Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 ATARI 2600 System Games Controllers MANUALS LOT ~ MORE (110302378208) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=110302378208 First right click anyplace on this auction. It has a Javascript that pops up "Property of DJRA Designs" The seller was registered Feb-08-99 from Port Jefferson Station, New York Next, click on the "167" feedback rating of the buyer zshadow724z. It will show his 2 feedback as a buyer. The first is from a NO LONGER REGISTERED user named "djra_designs". Click on djra_designs, they have a history of selling what... video games. zshadow724z, sells disney stuff... the other buyer feedback for zshadow724z is from roemar9460sl the very same seller who they won an item from yesterday and supposedly backed out on. roemar9460sl has history and listings of video games and disney stuff registered Feb-08-99 from Port Jefferson Station, New York, the same location as both other accounts, and the same registration date as djra_designs. Recap: djra_designs zshadow724z roemar9460sl Same person, or husband and wife team, evidence of shilling going back a few years at least on the surface (because they were stupid enough to leave feedback for themselves). Conclusion: scum. AX send Just like this to ebay. I hate shillers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 That lot for $37 bucks is still a good deal for a gift isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.golden.ax Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 (edited) Yep, it's still a good deal... but do I still take it? The guy was a cheater. My bro has been asking for a boxed 2600 like mine forever, and there are some great games in this batch. I planned on fixing up the box. His 38th birthday is in December (plus then Christmas). I'm tempted to take the second chance offer, and neg the seller after I get it with the shill facts. Can you imagine if he didn't shill, $2 or $3 for this!? AX Edited October 28, 2008 by the.golden.ax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Soldier Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I'd be wary about purchasing this item. You never know what condition your stuff will arrive in. They know your going to neg them, and report them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhwolfman Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I'd be wary about purchasing this item. You never know what condition your stuff will arrive in. They know your going to neg them, and report them. Yep as ghost said, Since you called them out on it, If you did buy it, They would pull something, for sure. HHW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthkur Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I'd be wary about purchasing this item. You never know what condition your stuff will arrive in. They know your going to neg them, and report them. Yep as ghost said, Since you called them out on it, If you did buy it, They would pull something, for sure. HHW I'd have to agree with both of you as well. On top of it they stated that neither the games nor the system has been tested so there's their loophole to have items non-functional. With what has just occurred I'd be willing to place a large wager that they'd make sure things were broken just out of spite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Weis Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Lighting torch even as we speak. I'll bring the horse and rope! Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Shill happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne2072 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Looks like the seller relisted it, but with a higher BIN price. ATARI 2600 System Games Controllers MANUALS LOT ~ MORE (110302378208) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=110302378208 First right click anyplace on this auction. It has a Javascript that pops up "Property of DJRA Designs" The seller was registered Feb-08-99 from Port Jefferson Station, New York Next, click on the "167" feedback rating of the buyer zshadow724z. It will show his 2 feedback as a buyer. The first is from a NO LONGER REGISTERED user named "djra_designs". Click on djra_designs, they have a history of selling what... video games. zshadow724z, sells disney stuff... the other buyer feedback for zshadow724z is from roemar9460sl the very same seller who they won an item from yesterday and supposedly backed out on. roemar9460sl has history and listings of video games and disney stuff registered Feb-08-99 from Port Jefferson Station, New York, the same location as both other accounts, and the same registration date as djra_designs. Recap: djra_designs zshadow724z roemar9460sl Same person, or husband and wife team, evidence of shilling going back a few years at least on the surface (because they were stupid enough to leave feedback for themselves). Conclusion: scum. AX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhwolfman Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Did ya nark on em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.golden.ax Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 No, they never replied, and yes, I should now. AX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhwolfman Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 No, they never replied, and yes, I should now. AX Good for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Just report them. But, as usual eBay themselves will do nothing. As long as they're getting the nice commissions, they don't really care what sellers do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like us on Facebook
Follow us on Twitter
AtariAge on Instagram
Watch us on YouTube
Chat on Discord
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.