walter_J64bit Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 OK I love these disk's back in the day but I like to know is there a way to pull a game off the disk without having to use auto menu's to run that one game. I've looked at some of the directory's I can see things like *.WAS or *.LSD I take it that they are the games files. So how can this done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 OK I love these disk's back in the day but I like to know is there a way to pull a game off the disk without having to use auto menu's to run that one game. I've looked at some of the directory's I can see things like *.WAS or *.LSD I take it that they are the games files. So how can this done? So you want to pull a game off a menu that auto-loads it and put it on a disk where you have to click it instead? seems rather pointless to me. Now, if it's for Hard Disk installation, try: http://dbug-automation.co.uk and click "patches" at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorsten Günther Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 OK I love these disk's back in the day but I like to know is there a way to pull a game off the disk without having to use auto menu's to run that one game. I've looked at some of the directory's I can see things like *.WAS or *.LSD I take it that they are the games files. So how can this done? So you want to pull a game off a menu that auto-loads it and put it on a disk where you have to click it instead? seems rather pointless to me. Now, if it's for Hard Disk installation, try: http://dbug-automation.co.uk and click "patches" at the top. That's not necessary for every game. Some games on menu disks are just renamed .PRGs (e.g. "Stunt Car Racer" off one menucan't remember which one though. The point of this is either hard disk use or getting rid of unwanted games (if there is only one good title on a menu disk and three crap titles, what's the point in keeping the crap titles?). Thorsten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 OK I love these disk's back in the day but I like to know is there a way to pull a game off the disk without having to use auto menu's to run that one game. I've looked at some of the directory's I can see things like *.WAS or *.LSD I take it that they are the games files. So how can this done? So you want to pull a game off a menu that auto-loads it and put it on a disk where you have to click it instead? seems rather pointless to me. Now, if it's for Hard Disk installation, try: http://dbug-automation.co.uk and click "patches" at the top. That's not necessary for every game. Some games on menu disks are just renamed .PRGs (e.g. "Stunt Car Racer" off one menucan't remember which one though. The point of this is either hard disk use or getting rid of unwanted games (if there is only one good title on a menu disk and three crap titles, what's the point in keeping the crap titles?). Thorsten Yes, Thats what I'm talking about getting rid of unwanted games and yes it's mostly for hard disk use but not all games are going to run off the hard disk so I like them on one or two floppy's instant of needing 10 disk's just for ten games. @ CyranoJ pointless no, but a need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) but not all games are going to run off the hard disk... Be patient... We're working on it.... Edited January 12, 2009 by CyranoJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppera Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Sometimes it can be done very simple, as is mentioned here. Sometimes crackers protect their 'work'. Sometimes game must be run from AUTO folder etc... There is a lot of variants. For hard disk usage often a lot of modification is needed. But even for floppy usage it is not pointless. For instance there are several cases where menu runs not on higher TOS versions, but game itself runs well. Not to mention that not anyone likes to watch intros full with messages without any sense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 but not all games are going to run off the hard disk... Be patient... We're working on it.... I know it's easy to look at all the lines of code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 OK I love these disk's back in the day but I like to know is there a way to pull a game off the disk without having to use auto menu's to run that one game. I've looked at some of the directory's I can see things like *.WAS or *.LSD I take it that they are the games files. So how can this done? So you want to pull a game off a menu that auto-loads it and put it on a disk where you have to click it instead? seems rather pointless to me. Now, if it's for Hard Disk installation, try: http://dbug-automation.co.uk and click "patches" at the top. Cool. I've been looking into getting hard drive autoboots to work in WinstonX (Winston compiled for the xbox). The functionality is there, just not taken advantage of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppera Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 ...I've been looking into getting hard drive autoboots to work in WinstonX (Winston compiled for the xbox). The functionality is there, just not taken advantage of. Winston ? So, Steem works not on Xbox ? I don't see the point to do it with Winston, as it lacks true hard disk emulation. Autoboot from mounted some DIR of Win as Atari partition is not same as autoboot from real hard disk. Better try with Hatari, as it has ACSI emulation. In Steem ACSI emulation works via Pasti.dll . Here you can read little about adaptations (not covering whole issue) : http://ppera.07x.net/atari/playfhd.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 ...I've been looking into getting hard drive autoboots to work in WinstonX (Winston compiled for the xbox). The functionality is there, just not taken advantage of. Winston ? So, Steem works not on Xbox ? I don't see the point to do it with Winston, as it lacks true hard disk emulation. Autoboot from mounted some DIR of Win as Atari partition is not same as autoboot from real hard disk. Better try with Hatari, as it has ACSI emulation. In Steem ACSI emulation works via Pasti.dll . Here you can read little about adaptations (not covering whole issue) : http://ppera.07x.net/atari/playfhd.html Did you even read his post? He's running it on an X-Box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Cool. I've been looking into getting hard drive autoboots to work in WinstonX (Winston compiled for the xbox). The functionality is there, just not taken advantage of. Whats the speed / compatiblity rate like on WinsonX? I dont have it installed at the moment on my xbox. I'd imagine overscan / cycle accurate stuff doesnt work? CJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 The people here could probably answer that question better than I. From what I understand WinstonX plays games very well but has issues with cycle accurate. Which means mostly demo's. If you all could tell me which emu is the best overrall I'd appreciate it. I may have to take a crack at porting it over someday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 The people here could probably answer that question better than I. From what I understand WinstonX plays games very well but has issues with cycle accurate. Which means mostly demo's. If you all could tell me which emu is the best overrall I'd appreciate it. I may have to take a crack at porting it over someday! Steem and Saint are by far the best available, but the sources are not publically available. Hatari is probably the best open source emulator around atm although I don't use it because I really hate the user interface (and also because *nothing* currently beats Steem's Boiler Room debugger, and I spend more time looking at code than whats actually on the screen) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 The people here could probably answer that question better than I. From what I understand WinstonX plays games very well but has issues with cycle accurate. Which means mostly demo's. If you all could tell me which emu is the best overrall I'd appreciate it. I may have to take a crack at porting it over someday! Steem and Saint are by far the best available, but the sources are not publically available. Hatari is probably the best open source emulator around atm although I don't use it because I really hate the user interface (and also because *nothing* currently beats Steem's Boiler Room debugger, and I spend more time looking at code than whats actually on the screen) Thanks for the info. For the xbox I'm not so much worried about fancy features like debuggers. Since they are best left for pc environments only anyways. Isn't Hatar based off of the Winston code? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppera Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 .... So, Steem works not on Xbox ?.... Did you even read his post? He's running it on an X-Box. Ahh, Sorry. I thought that Xbox and X-box is the same thing. But reading and 'reading' by some people is not the same, obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppera Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I've been looking into getting hard drive autoboots to work in WinstonX (Winston compiled for the xbox). The functionality is there, just not taken advantage of. What's the point of running 'hard drive autoboots' with emulator ? Which btw. has no real hard disk emulation. What is 'hard drive autoboot' at all ? (see recent thread about here). I suggest that stay by floppy images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsunnyboy Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Yes, Hatari is based on Winston but it was improved a lot over the last 5 years. Infact, a current Hatari release has almost no code resemblance to Winston anymore. Hatari is now more or less its very own emulator and not really based upon Winston anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Thank for the info.. Well hopefully it will be similar enough that an easy conversion can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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