X-box emulator (or BC)

[Video]

Ok, well, we went to a store and got a bunch of games, including some X-box games (regular) and put one in, and it says "the 360 can't play this game"

 

Ok, well, I know it's only about 90% compatible, so I just got unlucky, put in another game, same message, put in the third game, same message.

 

Now, maybe I just got seriously unlucky, the three games are Robocop, Chrimsom Skies, and Blood wake, maybe they simply aren't compatible, but I'm at my friends house and maybe, since he got the core, and the HDD seperate, he has to download the emulator or whatever. I just wondered how to do it (mine was a premium with the HDD and I never had the problem) Or maybe the games simply aren't compatible.

 

How do I find out, I figure go to X-box live, but is it something I have to go to through the menue, or a spacific place, or do I download it on a computer and hook up to the 360 or something?

 

Anyhow, thanks for any help.

[aikainnet]

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardscompatibility.htm

 

How To Get Original Xbox Game Support for Xbox 360



Original Xbox® game support enables your Xbox 360™ video game console to play an array of games from your original Xbox video game console. A list of games that are currently backward compatible is available here and we will continue to add support for additional games over time.

Original Xbox game support requires a hard disk drive (HDD) accessory on your Xbox 360 console.

There are three ways to obtain updates for your Xbox 360 console:

* Update through Xbox LIVE®.
* Burn a DVD or CD.
* Order a disc by mail from Xbox.com.

Technical Support

* You receive "This disc is unreadable" error.
* "Can't play this game" or, in Halo® 2, "You have an important message from Xbox LIVE" error message.

Xbox LIVE Update
Getting the update free through Xbox LIVE is the best option because your console will be updated automatically as new games are supported.

In order to update your Xbox 360 console over Xbox LIVE, a broadband Ethernet connection to the Internet and an Xbox LIVE account are required. The Xbox LIVE account can be either a Gold or Silver membership.

The first step is to connect your Xbox 360 console to your broadband connection. See http://www.xbox.com/connect for details.

The second step is to create an Xbox LIVE membership or add Xbox LIVE to your offline profile, if you haven't already. A profile can be created from the Dashboard by pressing the Xbox 360 button and selecting "Sign In" or by pressing the X button. The Dashboard will take you through the process of creating a profile, but you need to select "Join Xbox LIVE" to finish creating the profile.



Your console will be restarted when you join Xbox LIVE, so be sure to save your game progress before doing this step.

You can also add an Xbox LIVE membership to an existing profile by selecting "Join Live" from the Xbox 360 Dashboard.



You will need to enter in some information to create your membership (such as name, age, membership type, etc.) The whole process is painless and should take about five minutes or so. Select any type of Xbox LIVE membership you want to get these types of updates.

Following the addition of your Xbox LIVE membership, you may be asked to update the software on your console. Select "Yes" and wait for the update to finish.

Finally, make sure you're signed into Xbox LIVE, and then place an original Xbox game in the drive and close it. This will start the backward compatibility application and cause Xbox LIVE to send an update to the application, if necessary.

Note: Once you have started this process, you must proceed to completion. Failure to complete the install process may result in your Xbox 360 being unable to play any games until you have finished.

Once this update is installed, you are ready to play any supported original Xbox games. Future updates will be installed automatically, as long as you are signed into Xbox LIVE when you start the original Xbox game.

[HammR25]

Robocop and Blood Wake aren't compatible

[moycon]

These are the BC games:

 

* 2006 FIFA World Cup™ New

* 25 to Life 2 New

* 4x4 EVO 2

* AirForce Delta Storm

* Aggressive Inline™

* Alias

* Aliens versus Predator Extinction

* All-Star Baseball 2003

* All-Star Baseball 2005

* America's Army: Rise of a Soldier™

* AMF Bowling 20042 New

* Amped: Freestyle Snowboarding

* Amped 2

* APEX New

* Aquaman: Battle of Atlantis

* Arena Football New

* Armed and Dangerous New

* Army Men: Sarge's War

* Atari Anthology

* ATV: Quad Power Racing 2

* Auto Modellista

* Avatar: The Last Airbender

* Bad Boys 2

* Baldur's Gate™: Dark Alliance2 New

* Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II

* Barbie Horse Adventures Wild Horse Rescue™

* The Bard's Tale New

* Bass Pro Shops Trophy Hunter 2007

* Batman Begin

* Batman: Rise of Sin Tzu

* Battle Engine Aquila

* Battlestar Galactica™

* Big Mutha Truckers

* Bionicle® New

* BLACK™

* Blade II New

* Blinx™: The Time Sweeper™ New

* Blinx® 2 : Masters of Time & Space

* Blitz: The League2 New

* Blood Omen 2 New

* BloodRayne™ 2

* BlowOut New

* BMX XXX™

* Breakdown™

* Brute Force™

* Buffy the Vampire Slayer

* Buffy the Vampire Slayer™: Chaos Bleeds

* Burnout

* Burnout™ 2 New

* Burnout® 3: Takedown™

* Cabela's® Big Game Hunter™ 2005 Adventures

* Cabela’s Dangerous Hunts™

* Cabela's® Dangerous Hunts™ 2 New

* Cabela’s Outdoor Adventures™ 06

* Cabela's Deer Hunt™ 2005 Season

* Cabela's Deer Hunt™ 2004 Season

* Call of Cthulhu®: Dark Corners of the Earth™

* Call of Duty™: Finest Hour™

* Call of Duty® 2: Big Red One

* Call of Duty 3

* Cars

* Casino

* Catwoman™

* Championship Manager 20062 New

* Chicago Enforcer

* The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe New

* Circus Maximus

* Close Combat: First to Fight

* Colin McRae Rally 4

* Colin McRae Rally 2005™ New

* Combat Elite: WWII Paratroopers™

* Commandos 2: Men of Courage™

* Conflict: Desert Storm

* Conker: Live and Reloaded

* Constantine™

* Counter-Strike™

* Crash Bandicoot 4

* Crash Bandicoot 5: Wrath of Cortex

* Crash Nitro Kart™ 2

* Crash Twinsanity™

* Crime Life Gang Wars New

* Crimson Skies®: High Road to Revenge™

* Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon™

* Dai Senryaku VII: Modern Military Tactics™

* Dark Angel

* Darkwatch™

* Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX 2™ New

* The Da Vinci Code™

* Dead or Alive® 3

* Dead or Alive Ultimate

* Dead to Rights®

* Demon Stone™ New

* Deathrow

* Destroy All Humans!

* Digimon® Rumble Arena® 2

* Dinotopia2

* DOOM 3®

* DOOM 3®: Resurrection of Evil™

* Drake™

* Dreamfall: The Longest Journey

* Drive to Survive

* Dungeons & Dragons®: Heroes™ New

* Dynasty Warriors 4

* EA SPORTS™ Fight Night Round 3 New

* Egg Mania™: Eggstreme Madness

* The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind®

* ESPN College Hoops

* ESPN College Hoops 2K52 New

* ESPN Major League Baseball

* ESPN MLS ExtraTime 2002

* ESPN NFL 2K5 New

* ESPN NHL 2K5

* Euro 2004

* Evil Dead: A Fistful of Boomstick

* Evil Dead: Regeneration

* Ex-Chaser

* F1 2001

* Family Guy

* Fable®

* Fable®: The Lost Chapters™

* Fairly Odd Parents: Breakin' da Rules

* Fantastic Four New

* Far Cry: Instincts

* Fatal Frame™

* Fatal Frame II: Crimson Butterfly DIRECTOR'S CUT

* FIFA Soccer 06 New

* FIFA Soccer 07

* FIFA Soccer 2003

* FIFA Soccer 2004

* FIFA STREET

* FIFA Street 2

* Fight Night 2004

* Final Fight Streetwise™ New

* FlatOut™

* Ford Mustang

* Ford vs. Chevy

* Forza Motorsport™

* Freaky Flyers

* Freedom Fighters™2 New

* Freestyle Street Soccer™ New

* Frogger Beyond™

* Full Spectrum Warrior™

* Full Spectrum Warrior™: Ten Hammers

* Futurama™

* Future Tactics: The Uprising New

* Fuzion Frenzy®

* Gauntlet®: Seven Sorrows™

* Genma Onimusha

* Goblin Commander™: Unleash the Horde

* Godzilla®: Destroy All Monsters Melee New

* Godzilla: Save The Earth New

* GoldenEye: Rogue Agent™ New

* Grabbed by the Ghoulies™

* Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy

* Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

* Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas™

* Gravity Games Bike: Street. Vert. Dirt.

* The Great Escape

* Greg Hastings Tournament Paintball Max'd New

* Grooverider: Slot Car Thunder

* Guilty Gear Isuka

* Guilty Gear X2 #Reload

* The Guy Game2 New

* Half-Life® 2

* Halo®

* Halo 2

* Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack

* Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets™

* Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire™

* Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban™

* Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone™

* He-Man: Defender of Grayskull

* High Heat™ Major League Baseball® 20042 New

* Hitman: Contracts™

* Hot Wheels: Stunt Track Challenge

* House of the Dead 3

* The Hulk™

* Hunter: The Reckoning®2 New

* I-Ninja

* IHRA Drag Racing Sportsman Edition

* IHRA Professional Drag Racing 2005™

* The Incredible Hulk™: Ultimate Destruction

* Incredibles

* The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer

* Indiana Jones™ and the Emperor's Tomb™ New

* Indigo Prophecy

* IndyCar® Series 2005

* Intellivision Lives

* Jade Empire™3

* JSRF: Jet Set Radio Future

* Judge Dredd®: Dredd vs. Death™

* Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis

* Justice League Heroes

* Kabuki™ Warriors

* Kelly Slater's Pro Surfer

* kill.switch

* King Arthur

* The King of Fighters Neowave

* The King of Fighters™ 2002 & 2003

* Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders™

* The Legend of Spyro™: A New Beginning

* Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude

* LEGO® Star Wars®

* LEGO® Star Wars™ II: The Original Trilogy

* Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events™

* Links® 2004

* LOONS—The Fight for Fame

* The Lord of the Rings™: The Return of the King™

* The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age™ New

* Magatama

* Magic: The Gathering™—Battleground

* Manhunt

* Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects

* Marvel vs. Capcom 2

* Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX™ 2

* Max Payne

* Max Payne® 2

* Maximum Chase

* MechAssault® 2: Lone Wolf

* Medal of Honor European Assault™

* Medal of Honor™ Frontline

* Medal of Honor™ Rising Sun

* Mega Man® Anniversary Collection

* Mercenaries™

* Metal Arms™: Glitch in the System

* MicroMachines

* Mike Tyson Heavyweight Boxing

* Minority Report

* MLB SlugFest 20-03

* MLB SlugFest 20-04

* MLB® SlugFest®: Loaded2 New

* Monster Garage™

* Mortal Kombat: Armageddon

* Mortal Kombat® Deception™

* MotoGP

* MotoGP 2

* MTV Music Generator™ 3

* MTX: Mototrax™

* Murakumo: Renegade Mech Pursuit

* MVP Baseball™ 20032 New

* MVP Baseball 20042 New

* MX Unleashed

* MX vs. ATV Unleashed

* MX World Tour™: Featuring Jamie Little

* Myst III: Exile

* Namco Museum™

* Namco Museum 50th Anniversary Arcade Collection

* NASCAR Thunder™ 20022 New

* NASCAR Thunder 20032 New

* NASCAR 2006: Total Team Control

* NBA® Ballers™2 New

* NBA Inside Drive 2002 New

* NBA 2K32 New

* NBA Live 2002

* NBA LIVE 2004

* NBA STREET V3 New

* NCAA College Basketball 2K3 New

* NCAA March Madness 062 New

* NCAA® March Madness™ 20052 New

* NCAA Football 06

* Need For Speed™ Underground 2

* NFL 2K22 New

* NFL 2K32 New

* NFL Blitz 2002

* NFL Blitz 2003

* NFL Blitz 2004

* NFL Fever 2004

* NHL® 2004

* NHL 2005 New

* NHL 2K32 New

* NHL Hitz™ 2003

* NHL Hitz Pro New

* NightCaster New

* Ninja Gaiden®

* Ninja Gaiden Black

* NTRA Breeders' Cup World Thoroughbred Championships2 New

* Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee

* Open Season

* Outlaw Golf 2

* Outlaw Golf: 9 More Holes of X-mas

* Outlaw Tennis

* Outlaw Volleyball

* Outlaw Volleyball: Red Hot

* OutRun™ 2

* OutRun 2006: Coast to Coast

* Over the Hedge™

* Pac-Man World™ 3

* Pariah

* Panzer Dragoon ORTA™

* Phantom Crash™

* Phantom Dust™

* Pinball Hall of Fame™

* Pitfall®: The Lost Expedition™

* Playboy The Mansion New

* Predator Concrete Jungle™

* Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time™

* Pro Evolution Soccer 5

* Pro Race Driver™

* Project Gotham Racing®

* Project Gotham Racing 2

* Psychonauts

* Pump It Up™: Exceed

* The Punisher™

* Pure Pinball

* Puyo Pop Fever2

* Quantum Redshift®

* RalliSport Challenge

* Rainbow Six Lockdown

* Rapala Pro Fishing

* Rayman Arena

* Raze's Hell™

* Red Dead Revolver

* Red Faction® II

* RedCard™ 2003

* Reservoir Dogs

* Return to Castle Wolfenstein

* Richard Burns Rally

* RLH New

* RoadKill

* Robin Hood Defender of the Crown® New

* Robotech: Battlecry

* Rocky™2 New

* Rocky Legends

* Rogue Ops

* Rogue Trooper™

* Rugby 2006 New

* Rugby League 2

* Samurai Jack

* Samurai Warriors™

* Scarface

* Scooby Doo!™ Night of 100 Frights

* Scrapland

* SEGA GT™ 2002

* SegaGT Online

* Serious Sam

* Shadow The Hedgehog™

* Shadow Ops™: Red Mercury

* Shamu's Deep Sea Adventures

* Shark Tale

* Shattered Union New

* ShellShock: Nam '67™

* Shenmue II

* Shincho Mahjong

* Shrek® Super Party! New

* Sid Meier's Pirates!®

* The Simpsons™ Hit and Run™

* The Simpsons™ Road Rage

* Sims™ 2

* Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams

* Silent Hill 4: The Room

* Smashing Drive

* Sneakers 5

* Sniper Elite

* Soccer Slam

* Sonic Heroes

* Sonic Mega Collection Plus

* Sonic Riders

* Soul Calibur 2

* Spawn Armageddon

* Speed Kings

* Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy

* Spider-Man

* Spider-Man 2

* Splat Magazine Renegade Paintball

* Splinter Cell: Double Agent

* SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom

* Sponge Bob Square Pants: Lights, Camera, Pants!

* The SpongeBob Square Pants Movie

* SpyHunter 2

* SpyHunter: Nowhere to Run™

* Spyro A Hero's Tail

* SSX 3

* Stake

* Starsky & Hutch New

* Star Wars® Battlefront

* Star Wars Battlefront II

* Star Wars: Episode III Revenge of the Sith

* Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy

* Star Wars Jedi Starfighter New

* Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

* Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords

* Star Wars Republic Commando

* State of Emergency

* Street Fighter Anniversary Collection

* Street Racing Syndicate™

* Stubbs the Zombie™ in Rebel without a Pulse™

* The Suffering

* Super Bubble Pop

* Super Monkey Ball Deluxe

* SX Superstar

* Syberia II New

* Taz Wanted

* Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles™

* The Terminator Dawn of Fate

* Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines New

* Test Drive2 New

* Test Drive: Eve of Destruction

* Tetris Worlds 4

* The Thing

* Thief: Deadly Shadows™

* Thousand Land New

* Thrillville New

* Tiger Woods PGA TOUR® 07

* TMNT Mutant Melee™

* Tom and Jerry: War of the Whiskers New

* Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon

* Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 2

* Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon: Island Thunder™

* Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 2 Summit Strike

* Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3

* Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3 Black Arrow™

* Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell

* Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory™

* Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent™

* Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow™

* Tony Hawk's American Wasteland

* Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2x

* Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3

* Tony Hawk's Pro Skater™ 4

* Tony Hawk's Underground

* Tony Hawk's Underground 2

* Torino 2006™ Winter Olympics

* Tork: Prehistoric Punk™

* Toxic Grind

* Transworld Surf

* Trigger Man

* Trivial Pursuit Unhinged

* True Crime: Streets of LA

* Turok: Evolution New

* Ty The Tasmanian Tiger

* Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 2: Bush Rescue™

* Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 3: Night of the Quinkan

* Ultimate Spider-Man

* Ultra Bust-A-Move

* Unreal Championship 2: The Liandri Conflict

* Urban Freestyle Soccer

* The Urbz: Sims In The City™

* Van Helsing New

* Vexx™

* Vietcong: Purple Haze

* Volvo: Drive for Life

* Wakeboarding Unleashed: Featuring Sean Murray

* WarPath2 New

* Whacked!

* Winback 2: Project Poseidon

* Without Warning

* World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 International

* World Soccer Winning Eleven 9

* World Series® Baseball 2K3

* Worms 3D New

* Worms 4 Mayhem

* Worms Forts: Under Siege

* Wrath Unleashed™

* WWF Raw

* WWE Raw 2

* X2 Wolverine's Revenge

* Xiaolin Showdown

* XIII

* Yourself!Fitness

* Yu-Gi-Oh! The Dawn of Destiny

* Zapper

* Zathura New

[Atariboy]

Ok, well, I know it's only about 90% compatible, so I just got unlucky, put in another game, same message, put in the third game, same message.

 

Barely over 50% of the Xbox library was emulated, so I'd suggest checking out list from now on since there's an excellent chance the game you buy won't be compatible.

[NE146]

I say since used Xboxes are hyper plentiful on the cheap now (since everyone dumped theirs), just buy a friggin used xbox and enjoy 100% of the library easily with zero hassle.

 

Heck, I got 11.

[Video]

Wow, there's a lot more games on that incompatibility list than I remember there being (of course, I remember a few times people gripeing cause they took the games off, kinda the wrong direction there)

 

I got an xbox myself, I was just at a friends house, and never could talk him into getting one.

 

Heh, Oh well, I guess it'll never be BC, but then, thats why it took me so long to get a 360 in the first place, and why I kept the original box in the second place.

[Giltygear]

Robocop is garbage anway, so your not missing much. Crimson skies i think is on XBL for download anyway, and youve already heard the news on bloodwake (that its no compatible)

[awace]

wow i hope that was pasted and you didnt have to type those all in.

Edited February 18, 2009 by awace

[Lauren Tyler]

They haven't updated that list since I dunno when...

[moycon]

They haven't updated that list since I dunno when...

 

I think they decided based on the number of people actually using the BC downloads it wasn't worth the time and money.

[Hyper_Eye]

I am pretty sure that the last update was the last update. I am just very happy it included Morrowind because it couldn't be considered proper if they hadn't of gotten it done.

[Artlover]

I think they decided based on the number of people actually using the BC downloads it wasn't worth the time and money.

If only they would have decided that from the get go before they released the thing. At the very least we'd all have 8gigs more HDD space to use for more important things (like 500+ Fallout 3 saves).

[moycon]

At the very least we'd all have 8gigs more HDD space to use for more important things (like 500+ Fallout 3 saves).

 

??? Explain how you're using up 8 Gigs of space.

Are you keeping all the BC emulators on your HD and do they take up 8 Gigs?

[Atariboy]

He's looking at the space unavailable to use (I think if you delete everything off a 20gig hd, you end up with around 13 gigs of free space), and incorrectly assuming its all for the emulator; when it's reserved for many different things like caching, with probably less than 100mb's being used for the emulator. It's a very small program, and a emulation profile update, if they added something like 60 games, always downloaded in about 1-2 seconds.

 

Not to mention a 20, 60, or 120 gig hd isn't really those sizes in actuality.

 

I think they decided based on the number of people actually using the BC downloads it wasn't worth the time and money.

If only they would have decided that from the get go before they released the thing. At the very least we'd all have 8gigs more HDD space to use for more important things (like 500+ Fallout 3 saves).

 

Where's the logic in that? That's like saying the GameBoy Advance shouldn't of been sold since in the end, it was selling in very small numbers. They didn't create and support the BC emulator with a eye toward benefiting the console and the gamers at the middle or end of the 360's lifecycle, it was done to provide BC while people made the transition. They stopped because the titles remaining were the most difficult/expensive of the bunch to emulate, declining amounts of BC emulation profile downloads, and decreasing amounts of gamers playing their original Xbox titles on the 360. They basically reached the point of deminishing returns in regards to emulating the original Xbox, where the work would be too expensive with too little interest.

Edited February 20, 2009 by Atariboy

[Hyper_Eye]

Like Atariboy said, most of the space that is reserved on the hdd has nothing to do with the emulator. The emulator is very small. Again, most of that space is for cacheing, system files, etc. Also, as Atariboy said, hdd manufacturers call 1,000,000 Bytes a MByte while it actually takes 1,048,675 Bytes to make a MByte. This is actually worse when a drive is quoted in GBytes as the discrepancy is even larger. That means that the manufacturer reported size is not the size that will be reported by the system. A drive is almost always stated to be larger in capacity than it actually is due to this discrepancy. I have a quoted 500GB RAID0 array but the actual size as reported by the system is 457GB.

 

Anyway, Artlover is just grabbing on to another thing about the 360 to bitch about without stating actual fact. It is all in a days work for him.

[ianoid]

The BC thing is such a travesty on the 360. They really should have made that a focus early on. Now it doesn't matter so much. MS should have taken the strategy from their rivals and implemented them: backwards compatibility (Sony and Nintendo), and new hardware iterations regularly (Sony and Nintendo). BC was really just a nod. I'm sure a bunch of focus groups would say this or that, but Sony and Nintendo have built whole generations on BC.

[16-bit]

Sony cut BC from the PS3 on the newer models. I can't blame either company for not continuing. It must save them a good amount of money. Plus the prices on the older systems are low anyway.

[moycon]

Sony cut BC from the PS3 on the newer models. I can't blame either company for not continuing. It must save them a good amount of money. Plus the prices on the older systems are low anyway.

 

That and the fact we here at AA who dig old video games are in the minority. Producers of anything rarely cater to the minority.

If it cost them time/$$ and most of their consumer base doesn't use it, they don't focus on it. They'll focus on what makes them the most cash. It sucks for the few that absolutely won't buy a new system if it isn't 100% BC....all 23 of them.

[Video]

I think they decided based on the number of people actually using the BC downloads it wasn't worth the time and money.

If only they would have decided that from the get go before they released the thing. At the very least we'd all have 8gigs more HDD space to use for more important things (like 500+ Fallout 3 saves).

Tell me about it, I was shocked at how fast Fallout ate my memory space, I was like Oh My GOD WTF LOL (granted I only had about 100 MB left to start with, but still)

 

I was surprised how little of the 7 or 8 gigs is actually for the X-box, I thought it was for simulating a X-box Hard drive for HD spacific features (without emulating the HDD, I suspect lots of games that used it won't work right)

 

To bad it's not going to everbe finished,but eh, in 10 years Ill have a better emulator running in pure software for my PC anyways, and a stack of original black boxes to keep me happy on original games.