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Love the 1st gen 410.

Ahh... someone noticed. :)

 

Tempest

I noticed it, since it looks different from my 410. I didn't realize Atari had two versions. According to Atari Museum, mine's the 410a, 2nd gen.

 

I noticed the desk you're using has a pull-out keyboard drawer. Y'know, you COULD put your 835 and 850 on that drawer... just a thought. :D

 

Definitely a beautiful setup ya got there!

 

Cheers,

Smeg

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What amazes me is that they came up with such a damn technically elaborate copy protection routine in the first place.. I bet it caused more problems than just XF compatability in the long run.

 

Anywayze.. The ATRs available on the web run from SIO2PC just fine, so as I said, just copy them to a floppy and the XF should do just fine with them..

 

I always thought copy protection was fascinating. There are so many things that can be written to a disk that produce specific verifiable results when read. Most of them can be written if you have direct access to the FDC (which Atari's drives don't support), but a few tricks apparently require more specialized hardware. I remember copying the earliest protected disks by jiggling the disk and making my own bad sectors. That didn't work for long. :)

The FS-II copy protection worked a bit different. It didn't use bad sectors actively (even though the last sector of each track was broken - simply because it was absent), the mechanism works by timing the sector read. Since the sector layout was different, the time it took to load them differed from the time a regular disk required for the same data. FS-II used pokey timers and a custom disk loader for all the magic, one of the very first of its kind.

 

The ATRs you find on the web have that already "fixed", otherwise it wouldn't work - or rather, ATRs cannot represent the sector layout of the original FS-II disks.

 

Thomas

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Love the 1st gen 410.

Ahh... someone noticed. :)

 

Tempest

I noticed it, since it looks different from my 410. I didn't realize Atari had two versions. According to Atari Museum, mine's the 410a, 2nd gen.

I had to go through 4 410's to find one that worked (reliably anyway). The old model 410 was the only one that made the cut. My newer 410 is flaky.

 

Tempest

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I've actually seen 2 versions of the original 410. One had the AC cord built-in and the other had a small wall-wart.

Mine has the built in cord on the side. It was hard enough finding the original 410, I didn't know there was another variation!

 

BTW does anyone have a picture of the box for the original 410? I have two different boxes for the second 410 (B&W box and silver), but I don't know what the original 410 box looks like.

 

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BTW does anyone have a picture of the box for the original 410? I have two different boxes for the second 410 (B&W box and silver), but I don't know what the original 410 box looks like.

 

IIRC my box for the original 410 was white with brown artwork with a drawing of the 410 in front of a bunch of vertical lines.

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BTW does anyone have a picture of the box for the original 410? I have two different boxes for the second 410 (B&W box and silver), but I don't know what the original 410 box looks like.

 

IIRC my box for the original 410 was white with brown artwork with a drawing of the 410 in front of a bunch of vertical lines.

Yep that's the one I have but it has the newer model 410 pictured on it. Were they all like that?

 

EDIT: The box I'm talking about is the one on the left in this picture from Curt's site:

 

410a.JPG

 

Tempest

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I took a picture of my current setup. Just looking at it makes me nostalgic for the old days...

 

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Tempest

 

Nice. No need to get an Amdek or 1702. That TV will work fine.

 

You need to retr0brite that bottom 810. ;)

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