+Ripdubski Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 (edited) . Edited September 11, 2014 by Ripdubski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ripdubski Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Windows 8 style, with a couple of selection types: [Note: Thumbnails, but we can go with icons if you want to Jon.] 8 TM Graph - Preliminary 2a (Scaled).png 8 TM Graph - Preliminary 2a1 (scaled).png 1 is very pleasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Here they are with icons instead of graph thumbnails: Edited September 12, 2014 by MrFish 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 That is amazing! You are a wizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 MrFish, you're pulling more out of less pixels than I even thought possible. Only other person who I could ever say that about, is Susan Kare. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 MrFish, you're pulling more out of less pixels than I even thought possible. I miniaturized your t-shirt, eh? Only other person who I could ever say that about, is Susan Kare. You're talking about my mentor now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 for real? -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Fabulous visualisations. Meanwhile, this won't win any prizes (and all but one icon looks like hell), but I wanted to see what 16x16 icons would look in the vertical tab bar as I imagined it: As I say - I cannot apologize enough for the quality. This is more of a general widget concept than a task manager design. If the tab control is kept small, it opens up a lot more space in a small dialog. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 We might wanna call this style of UI design "Origami", because it requires skillful folding of elements. could call the whole thing Origami, because it really is a case of folding so much into so little space. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 for real? In the spiritual sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 In the spiritual sense. I always ask, because I have crossed paths with a lot of people. (Including Susan Kare, Arlo Rose, Andy Hertzfeld, Darin Adler, and Gene Z. Ragan, while they were at Eazel from 1999-2001, I was helping test Nautilus.) -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Fabulous visualisations. Meanwhile, this won't win any prizes (and all but one icon looks like hell), but I wanted to see what 16x16 icons would look in the vertical tab bar as I imagined it: vertical tabs.png As I say - I cannot apologize enough for the quality. This is more of a general widget concept than a task manager design. If the tab control is kept small, it opens up a lot more space in a small dialog. Nah, those little icons are cool. It's always tougher to work in a more confined area -- as I well know. Question: Is this a mockup, or we're running on the real McCoy (I'm guessing it's live)? In case of the latter, it's awesome, and demonstrates this can be a very useful approach. I was thinking of more traditional icons when we first spoke about all this. But... I wanted to do at least one set of mockups of the Win8 style verbatum, just to see "what if?", and then work outward from there. A couple things about it: One is that it does remind of paper folding (as t909 mentioned) and the tabs on tabs is slightly confusing looking. The other thing is that losing the textual data limits the ability to monitor any more than one category at a time. The second, of course is obvious, but taking the old task manager as a model, it's very nice being able to see both RAM and CPU usage simultaneously, rather than having to flick around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yes, some sort of reading for RAM and CPU at the same time is probably what I would find most convenient. It is all looking very good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I always ask, because I have crossed paths with a lot of people. (Including Susan Kare, Arlo Rose, Andy Hertzfeld, Darin Adler, and Gene Z. Ragan, while they were at Eazel from 1999-2001, I was helping test Nautilus.) That's really cool. Those folks from the original Mac team are all heroes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Nah, those little icons are cool. It's always tougher to work in a more confined area -- as I well know. I took ten minutes over them; certainly not intended as anything other than a rough impression. Question: Is this a mockup, or we're running on the real McCoy (I'm guessing it's live)? In case of the latter, it's awesome, and demonstrates this can be a very useful approach. I was thinking of more traditional icons when we first spoke about all this. But... I wanted to do at least one set of mockups of the Win8 style verbatum, just to see "what if?", and then work outward from there. It's a mock-up (Pixelformer, done in about 25 minutes since I had guests). It's easy enough to do live if I can locate suitable icons. If this were the real McCoy, the vertical tabs would certainly have been of equal size, at least. Also, they complicate the vertical tabs (imagine the leftmost horizontal tab with the focus; perhaps it would have to scoot over to the right). A couple things about it: One is that it does remind of paper folding (as t909 mentioned)... That observation is lost on me a bit, I'm afraid. ...and the tabs on tabs is slightly confusing looking. Not to me: I designed it that way because it seemed to make complete sense, in fact, but if it's confusing to others, then it's not doing the job properly. The other thing is that losing the textual data limits the ability to monitor any more than one category at a time. The second, of course is obvious, but taking the old task manager as a model, it's very nice being able to see both RAM and CPU usage simultaneously, rather than having to flick around. I agree in theory, although I haven't spent enough time actually monitoring usage data in any OS for reasons other than curiosity to be sure whether I'd miss CPU and RAM side by side. But sure it seems logical to have them together. Having to keep the task manager lightweight probably precludes most of the thumbnail preview ideas, but it's definitely fun to explore different designs, and everything you've presented is appealing for one reason or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 More stuff to look at: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w1k Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Yes: in two weeks' time. will be possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 will be possible? Well, that date is already in the past. I spent much longer than anticipated on the task manager, and today I'm revising the menu handler. If I can get this - and a few other things - done by Sunday, then we have a demo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarixle Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 when I learned something about 8 bit guis ... they look fantastic, but it's faster to keep it simple if I would re-create BOSS-X right now, I rather would make it look like Windows 8. but better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 The best way to make it fast is to write it in machine code, otherwise performance considerations impose severe limits on what's possible - simple as that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 16 x 16 icon version: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Improved the CPU and RAM icons a little bit: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 Looks nice. What is the purpose of the "CF" tab? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Grid-lines for the thumbs. I didn't think it would work at first, but it's not too bad, at least on paper.: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 What is the purpose of the "CF" tab? Space filler. CF's are drives, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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