Nukey Shay Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Here's that test... The point values are a little buggy still...they have no provision for being corrected when a rock leaves and another takes it's place...or for exactly how long the value is displayed. That can be worked out once the EXTREMELY wasteful ram allocation is edited a bit. The way I figure, there are 3 important game elements missing...the monkey, bubbles in the water (to keep you from just avoiding the gators completely), and dual rocks/savages (the same kernel portion handles both). A sprite is free for the first issue, a missile or ball can be used to handle the second, and 30hz flicker coding can handle the last. Without them, the game is just too damn easy. In the meantime, more space needs to be scrounged up WARNING to bithackers... The addresses shown in the assembly file are relevant ONLY to the original game. Many things have been moved around here. Rock_Points_Test.zip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMos3 Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 (edited) Excellent work as always Nukey. The vine scene is buggy, but the rest looks excellent and I love the rolling rocks with point values. The shading on the large boulders looks great as well. I'm excited to see where you go with this. The ideas for monkeys, bubbles, and dual rocks/savages are very interesting. Edited July 24, 2010 by KevinMos3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 I think those boulders look great. They definitely add a nice touch of elegance to the gfx. I'm just waiting for the monkey now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Update: I've got 14 cycles free in the rock/savage kernel without adding any redundancy...just ~n cycle NOPs (which I take it are safe to use anywhere). That is enough time to use line comparison + skipdraw for an additional object. Unfortunately, it would have to be a missile or the ball sprite, but that could pass for a small rock (I guess). The existing small/large rocks can remain the same. So you'd have to avoid an additional object there once added in. Might as well use the ball sprite so it can be colored independantly from the existing rocks. I've still got a full page of memory to use...still haven't gotten around to shuffling variables to make those more efficient. But I did add some additional eye candy (2-tone sea floor, color shading, etc). Will post soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuppicide Posted July 25, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 Looking good so far, but your test runs buggy for me on the first level. Your guy flickers really fast the whole time. Rock level looks nice, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Might end up as an "emulation-only" hack in that case. I don't have any means of testing a game on actual hardware. Z26 and (the last Win98) Stella look fine. No flicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Might end up as an "emulation-only" hack in that case. I don't have any means of testing a game on actual hardware. Z26 and (the last Win98) Stella look fine. No flicker The hunter is not being repositioned correctly in the Vine Scene. He jumps left-right all the time. This is what Yuppicide is talking about, but I thought you new about this already? I don't use Z26 anymore as it kept crashing my old computer. I'm using the latest version of Stella only... Actually I'll go test it on real hardware and see if the hunter is jumping like he does in Stella. Give me a few minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 It was also happening on real hardware. I took a look, and I found the problem. HMCLR was being hit too early after a HMOVE. This fix makes it stable. sty NUSIZ1 ;3 stx ENAM1 ;3 ;; lda $DD ;3 Subtracted Omega sec ;2 sta WSYNC ;3 sta HMOVE ;3 lda $DD ;3 LD59E: sbc #$0F ;2 bcs LD59E ;2 eor #$07 ;2 asl ;2 asl ;2 asl ;2 asl ;2 sta HMP0 ;3 sta RESP0 ;3 sta WSYNC ;3 sta HMOVE ;3 @3 ldx #$FF ;2 @5 txs ;2 @7 ldy #$1D ;2 @9 lda ($8C),y ;5 @11 ;; sta HMCLR ;3 Subtracted Omega, too early after HMOVE and #MOVELINE ;2 added beq LD5CA ;2 lda $E2 ;3 LD5CA: TAX Added Omega, X gets reloaded before used ;; sta HMBL ;3 Subtracted Omega lda ($8E),y ;5 and #MOVELINE ;2 added beq LD5D2 ;2 lda $E3 ;3 LD5D2: STA HMCLR ; Added Omega sta HMM1 ;3 STX HMBL ; Added Omega sta WSYNC ;3 sta HMOVE ;3 ldy #$3A ;2 LD5DA: lda #$00 ;2 cpy $F7 ;3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMos3 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 That fixed it Omegamatrix. Try these sprite edits: I think the mask on the native looks more like a mask, (I thought the mask was a hat when I was a kid... looked like a crown or something to me). I like the arms back and leaning forward when jumping. I got that idea from the arcade version. Uh... seems the forum won't accept the "percent zero zero" at the front, even with the code command. So, you need to add that, ("percent zero zero" symbols not words - without the quotes), in front of each one that doesn't have it here. The explanation is more for others who stumble on the thread, as Nukey and Omegamatrix obviously know the routine. LD03B: ;savage gfx .byte 000000 ; | | $D03B .byte 001100 ; | XX | $D03C .byte 101000 ; | X X | $D03D .byte 101100 ; | X XX | $D03E .byte %11100110 ; |XXX XX | $D03F .byte %10000010 ; |X X | $D040 .byte %01100010 ; | XX X | $D041 .byte 111111 ; | XXXXXX| $D042 .byte 011110 ; | XXXX | $D043 .byte 001110 ; | XXX | $D044 .byte %01001110 ; | X XXX | $D045 .byte %01001110 ; | X XXX | $D046 .byte %01010110 ; | X X XX | $D047 .byte %01101010 ; | XX X X | $D048 .byte %01001110 ; | X XXX | $D049 .byte %01111110 ; | XXXXXX | $D04A .byte %01001010 ; | X X X | $D04B .byte %01011111 ; | X XXXXX| $D04C .byte %01010101 ; | X X X X| $D04D .byte %01010101 ; | X X X X| $D04E .byte %01001110 ; | X XXX | $D04F .byte %11101110 ; |XXX XXX | $D050 .byte %01000000 ; | X | $D051 LDD52: .byte 000000 ; | | $DD52 .byte 000011 ; | XX| $DD53 .byte 000001 ; | X| $DD54 .byte 000011 ; | XX| $DD55 .byte %11000110 ; |XX XX | $DD56 .byte %01000100 ; | X X | $DD57 .byte %01000100 ; | X X | $DD58 .byte %01000100 ; | X X | $DD59 .byte %01111100 ; | XXXXX | $DD5A .byte %01111100 ; | XXXXX | $DD5B .byte 000000 ; | | $DD5C .byte 001101 ; | XX X| $DD5D .byte 001101 ; | XX X| $DD5E .byte 011101 ; | XXX X| $DD5F .byte 011111 ; | XXXXX| $DD60 .byte 011110 ; | XXXX | $DD61 .byte 111000 ; | XXX | $DD62 .byte 111000 ; | XXX | $DD63 .byte 011000 ; | XX | $DD64 .byte %01111100 ; | XXXXX | $DD65 .byte 111000 ; | XXX | $DD66 .byte 000000 ; | | $DD67 LDD68: .byte 000000 ; | | $DD68 .byte 000000 ; | | $DD69 .byte 000000 ; | | $DD6A .byte %11000000 ; |XX | $DD6B .byte %01000001 ; | X X| $DD6C .byte %01000111 ; | X XXX| $DD6D .byte %01000111 ; | X XXX| $DD6E .byte %01100100 ; | XX X | $DD6F .byte 111100 ; | XXXX | $DD70 .byte 011100 ; | XXX | $DD71 .byte 000000 ; | | $DD72 .byte 001101 ; | XX X| $DD73 .byte 001101 ; | XX X| $DD74 .byte 011111 ; | XXXXX| $DD75 .byte 011110 ; | XXXX | $DD76 .byte 011100 ; | XXX | $DD77 .byte 111000 ; | XXX | $DD78 .byte 111000 ; | XXX | $DD79 .byte 011000 ; | XX | $DD7A .byte %01111100 ; | XXXXX | $DD7B .byte 111000 ; | XXX | $DD7C .byte 000000 ; | | $DD7D .byte 000000 ; | | $DD7E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Uh... seems the forum won't accept the "percent zero zero" at the front, even with the code command. Yes, the forum software goobles these up. I often draw gfx straight in hex anyhow so it doesn't bother me. I wrote a quick excel sheet to convert your gobbled binary to hex for this particular case. It also redraws the commented graphics portion. Different scenarios will require a modified excel sheet. CovertGfxFromForumMess.zip LD03B: ;savage gfx .byte $00 ; | | $D03B .byte $0C ; | XX | $D03C .byte $28 ; | X X | $D03D .byte $2C ; | X XX | $D03E .byte $E6 ; |XXX XX | $D03F .byte $82 ; |X X | $D040 .byte $62 ; | XX X | $D041 .byte $3F ; | XXXXXX| $D042 .byte $1E ; | XXXX | $D043 .byte $0E ; | XXX | $D044 .byte $4E ; | X XXX | $D045 .byte $4E ; | X XXX | $D046 .byte $56 ; | X X XX | $D047 .byte $6A ; | XX X X | $D048 .byte $4E ; | X XXX | $D049 .byte $7E ; | XXXXXX | $D04A .byte $4A ; | X X X | $D04B .byte $5F ; | X XXXXX| $D04C .byte $55 ; | X X X X| $D04D .byte $55 ; | X X X X| $D04E .byte $4E ; | X XXX | $D04F .byte $EE ; |XXX XXX | $D050 .byte $40 ; | X | $D051 LDD52: .byte $00 ; | | $DD52 .byte $03 ; | XX| $DD53 .byte $01 ; | X| $DD54 .byte $03 ; | XX| $DD55 .byte $C6 ; |XX XX | $DD56 .byte $44 ; | X X | $DD57 .byte $44 ; | X X | $DD58 .byte $44 ; | X X | $DD59 .byte $7C ; | XXXXX | $DD5A .byte $7C ; | XXXXX | $DD5B .byte $00 ; | | $DD5C .byte $0D ; | XX X| $DD5D .byte $0D ; | XX X| $DD5E .byte $1D ; | XXX X| $DD5F .byte $1F ; | XXXXX| $DD60 .byte $1E ; | XXXX | $DD61 .byte $38 ; | XXX | $DD62 .byte $38 ; | XXX | $DD63 .byte $18 ; | XX | $DD64 .byte $7C ; | XXXXX | $DD65 .byte $38 ; | XXX | $DD66 .byte $00 ; | | $DD67 LDD68: .byte $00 ; | | $DD68 .byte $00 ; | | $DD69 .byte $00 ; | | $DD6A .byte $C0 ; |XX | $DD6B .byte $41 ; | X X| $DD6C .byte $47 ; | X XXX| $DD6D .byte $47 ; | X XXX| $DD6E .byte $64 ; | XX X | $DD6F .byte $3C ; | XXXX | $DD70 .byte $1C ; | XXX | $DD71 .byte $00 ; | | $DD72 .byte $0D ; | XX X| $DD73 .byte $0D ; | XX X| $DD74 .byte $1F ; | XXXXX| $DD75 .byte $1E ; | XXXX | $DD76 .byte $1C ; | XXX | $DD77 .byte $38 ; | XXX | $DD78 .byte $38 ; | XXX | $DD79 .byte $18 ; | XX | $DD7A .byte $7C ; | XXXXX | $DD7B .byte $38 ; | XXX | $DD7C .byte $00 ; | | $DD7D .byte $00 ; | | $DD7E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 It was also happening on real hardware. I took a look, and I found the problem. HMCLR was being hit too early after a HMOVE. This fix makes it stable.Thanks...I hadn't yet looked into problem code from the original game (this isn't the only spot...HM's are also being set too soon in a few areas). Monkey (placeholder) added. It doesn't have it's own motion yet...it's just following the top of a vine and using the framecounter to move around vertically with no animation. But it will throw you off a vine if you hit it. NOTE: I know there are additional glitches. Still plenty of space to begin addressing those later. Monkey_Test.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinMos3 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Monkeys Suck! Actually, good work. It definitely makes the vines much harder, not that I'm a glutton for punishment or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Don't worry...it should be easy to be able to deactivate them if the player wanted to. Difficulties are not used by the program, so that could be an "easy game" mode. I'm still digging up free space left and right as I understand more of the kernel. I barely touched the second bank's code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Just tried the lastest build and it looks very sweet, Nukey! I love the monkeys, I love the highlights on "Jungle Hunt", and the points for jumping a ball looks better white/greyish like it is now. I kind of felt ripped off that I didn't get more points for avoiding the large bolder, but I figured out you have to jump it to get max points. The river floor looks nice having 2 colors, but is still too pink for me. I found the gold borders on the oxygen meter a little bright, but all in all great work here Nukey!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 I kind of felt ripped off that I didn't get more points for avoiding the large bolder lol The funny thing is that running under the boulder is probably the most difficult way of dealing with it in the VCS port, yet awards the least amount of points. That's one of the things that didn't translate so good About the colors chosen, those are all subject to change. It's enough to get them set up so they can be altered later. BTW the ocean floor is still broken (I reused the forest routine...but the stack needs a bit of work since they were made for different display methods - reflected vs. asymmetrical). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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