Charlie_ Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Can anyone point me to a web page or attach a file here that is SpartaDos 3.2f and is a DD image? I'd like to make a boot disk for my XEGS with writeatr on my DOS pc. All I can find online are 90K atr files and writeatr wont make a disk because of image sizes not matching. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 I just cobbled this together, if it's what you're looking for: SpartaDos 3.2f DD.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_ Posted October 10, 2010 Author Share Posted October 10, 2010 I just cobbled this together, if it's what you're looking for: SpartaDos 3.2f DD.zip Thank you! I was able to make the disk using writeatr. However, when I use ataridsk I can mount the disk, but when I choose XL->PC it does not show any files on the disk. I don't actualy want to copy any files to my pc, I just want to see if any files are on the disk. I had used the Imagic app to change 90K atr files to 180K atr files. And I had exactly the same results as above. Does it have something to do with it being a SpartaDos format that Ataridsk isnt reading it? Also I used Imagic to change a 90K SpartaDos 3.2f disk to 130K extended density ATR and my pc had no troubles writing this format to a real floppy with writeatr. I spent a long time hunting down that floppy controller when i needed to write SD disks for the ti99. It is on a Adaptec SCSI ISA card. I should add that I don't know if the disk will work as I dont have my 1050 working yet. I'm just getting ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiassofT Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 I was able to make the disk using writeatr. However, when I use ataridsk I can mount the disk, but when I choose XL->PC it does not show any files on the disk. I don't actualy want to copy any files to my pc, I just want to see if any files are on the disk. I had used the Imagic app to change 90K atr files to 180K atr files. And I had exactly the same results as above. Does it have something to do with it being a SpartaDos format that Ataridsk isnt reading it? Exactly, Ataridsk only supports the DOS 2.x format, not the SpartaDos disk format. Also I used Imagic to change a 90K SpartaDos 3.2f disk to 130K extended density ATR and my pc had no troubles writing this format to a real floppy with writeatr. A quicker way is to just use the -f10 option to write a 90k SD image to an enhanced density disk. Sectors 721-1040 are then automatically padded with zeroes. The VTOC is still the old one (of a 90k disk) so you won't be able to use the additional space - but for a quick transfer of data to your Atari this method is OK. so long, Hias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_ Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 A quicker way is to just use the -f10 option to write a 90k SD image to an enhanced density disk. Sectors 721-1040 are then automatically padded with zeroes. The VTOC is still the old one (of a 90k disk) so you won't be able to use the additional space - but for a quick transfer of data to your Atari this method is OK. so long, Hias Thanks! I'm using writeatr v.92b and the option is -f9. I just tried it and it seems to work fine. No errors. writeatr -b -f9 fted32f.atr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopy Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 have you tried the sio2pc cable yet? you can mount atr's on the pc, and then boot them on the XEGS... sloopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_ Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 have you tried the sio2pc cable yet? you can mount atr's on the pc, and then boot them on the XEGS... sloopy. No. I dont have a PC with a serial port... Well I dont have an old laptop with a serial port as my Atari is very far from the closest PC with one. I was thinking about a Serial to USB adapter but they are about $40 in the stores. I hope to find an adapter cheap online and then use the cable. I can wait for the sio cable for the 1050. I'm just making all these disks in preparation. Here is a question: Does the stock 1050 support this extended density (130k) or just 1050 modified with USD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopy Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 have you tried the sio2pc cable yet? you can mount atr's on the pc, and then boot them on the XEGS... sloopy. No. I dont have a PC with a serial port... Well I dont have an old laptop with a serial port as my Atari is very far from the closest PC with one. I was thinking about a Serial to USB adapter but they are about $40 in the stores. I hope to find an adapter cheap online and then use the cable. I can wait for the sio cable for the 1050. I'm just making all these disks in preparation. Here is a question: Does the stock 1050 support this extended density (130k) or just 1050 modified with USD? ED is what atari insulted its users with instead of true double density, and it was introduced with the 1050... so of the three atari disk drives ( 810, 1050, XF551) the 1050 and XF551 support ED quick overview: 810: Single Density, Single Sided (90k) 1050: Single Density, Single Sided (90K); Enhanced Density, Single Sided (130K) XF551: Single Density, Single Sided (90K); Enhanced Density, Single Sided (130K), Double Density, Single Sided (180K) *Single Density, Double Sided (180K); *Enhanced Density, Double Sided (260K), Double Density, Double Sided (360K) *uncommon or even rarely used most third party drives support only single and/or double density (the Indus GT is a notable exception as it also does ED) sloopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiassofT Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Thanks! I'm using writeatr v.92b and the option is -f9. I just tried it and it seems to work fine. No errors. writeatr -b -f9 fted32f.atr Ah, yes, you are right - it's -f9, not -f10. Maybe I should read the docs to my own software again :-) Another question: does your FDC support reading of enhanced density disks? Since you didn't mention using the "-n" option I guess so. Could you check what kind of FDC your controller card is using? so long, Hias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcokitt2000 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 have you tried the sio2pc cable yet? you can mount atr's on the pc, and then boot them on the XEGS... sloopy. No. I dont have a PC with a serial port... Well I dont have an old laptop with a serial port as my Atari is very far from the closest PC with one. I was thinking about a Serial to USB adapter but they are about $40 in the stores. I hope to find an adapter cheap online and then use the cable. I can wait for the sio cable for the 1050. I'm just making all these disks in preparation. Here is a question: Does the stock 1050 support this extended density (130k) or just 1050 modified with USD? Hi i have a sio2pc in my 600xl (64kb) and make some change on it with switches 1 swith wich can do 3 cable switch and 1 for 5 volt from atari dc-in and for the serial output change pin 7 to pin 4 why other ways ape prosystem is not working . I have with change of the swicthes sio2pc to sio 2 1050 and works great You can built it self for a small price. But 1 thing there are usb to serial port convertors i buy 1 to now i can use it to my notebook (without serial bus only usb). The usb to serial is round the 10-20 euro's but if i must make a sio2pc cable by my self it's all so round the 10-20 euro's say it is round 20-40 euro's i think for me is 40 euro's is round the same in $. If i must do this build my own i will buy the usb serial cable for the atari from ape site. Gr. Marco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_ Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 have you tried the sio2pc cable yet? you can mount atr's on the pc, and then boot them on the XEGS... sloopy. No. I dont have a PC with a serial port... Well I dont have an old laptop with a serial port as my Atari is very far from the closest PC with one. I was thinking about a Serial to USB adapter but they are about $40 in the stores. I hope to find an adapter cheap online and then use the cable. I can wait for the sio cable for the 1050. I'm just making all these disks in preparation. Here is a question: Does the stock 1050 support this extended density (130k) or just 1050 modified with USD? Hi i have a sio2pc in my 600xl (64kb) and make some change on it with switches 1 swith wich can do 3 cable switch and 1 for 5 volt from atari dc-in and for the serial output change pin 7 to pin 4 why other ways ape prosystem is not working . I have with change of the swicthes sio2pc to sio 2 1050 and works great You can built it self for a small price. But 1 thing there are usb to serial port convertors i buy 1 to now i can use it to my notebook (without serial bus only usb). The usb to serial is round the 10-20 euro's but if i must make a sio2pc cable by my self it's all so round the 10-20 euro's say it is round 20-40 euro's i think for me is 40 euro's is round the same in $. If i must do this build my own i will buy the usb serial cable for the atari from ape site. Gr. Marco. That sounds like the best thing to do. If I was buying a sio2pc cable I would also get the usb version. I got this serial version as part of a package. Sloopy threw it in the box when I purchased a 1050 drive form him. I looked on amazon.com and ordered a "cables unlimited usb to serial adapter" for $17. I threw a $10 book on the order to get free shipping. All the reviews say this adapter is great so I'm looking forward to using it with the Atari. If I'm thinking correct I can have my 1050 as primary drive and then plug in the sio2pc in to the 1050 as a secondary device? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopy Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 have you tried the sio2pc cable yet? you can mount atr's on the pc, and then boot them on the XEGS... sloopy. No. I dont have a PC with a serial port... Well I dont have an old laptop with a serial port as my Atari is very far from the closest PC with one. I was thinking about a Serial to USB adapter but they are about $40 in the stores. I hope to find an adapter cheap online and then use the cable. I can wait for the sio cable for the 1050. I'm just making all these disks in preparation. Here is a question: Does the stock 1050 support this extended density (130k) or just 1050 modified with USD? Hi i have a sio2pc in my 600xl (64kb) and make some change on it with switches 1 swith wich can do 3 cable switch and 1 for 5 volt from atari dc-in and for the serial output change pin 7 to pin 4 why other ways ape prosystem is not working . I have with change of the swicthes sio2pc to sio 2 1050 and works great You can built it self for a small price. But 1 thing there are usb to serial port convertors i buy 1 to now i can use it to my notebook (without serial bus only usb). The usb to serial is round the 10-20 euro's but if i must make a sio2pc cable by my self it's all so round the 10-20 euro's say it is round 20-40 euro's i think for me is 40 euro's is round the same in $. If i must do this build my own i will buy the usb serial cable for the atari from ape site. Gr. Marco. That sounds like the best thing to do. If I was buying a sio2pc cable I would also get the usb version. I got this serial version as part of a package. Sloopy threw it in the box when I purchased a 1050 drive form him. I looked on amazon.com and ordered a "cables unlimited usb to serial adapter" for $17. I threw a $10 book on the order to get free shipping. All the reviews say this adapter is great so I'm looking forward to using it with the Atari. If I'm thinking correct I can have my 1050 as primary drive and then plug in the sio2pc in to the 1050 as a secondary device? its a 2chip maxim sio2pc cable, so it should work with other sio devices... also i sell usb sio2pc cables for $25 + shipping... i have two left right now, i need to orderparts to make more tho... sloopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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