Trebor Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Any word on Curt's health? I saw him posting on Facebook recently, but one wouldn't need much strength for that... Has there been any statement on further progress with the XM? http://atariage.com/forums/topic/211179-back-in-the-game/?do=findComment&comment=2734719 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linville Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Cool, thanks for the link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Usotsuki Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 (edited) I've been considering getting a BASIC interpreter up on the 78 myself, though I'll prolly need help with the DOS aspect and some other things. ETA: I ported a BASIC interpreter to the Apple ][+ because I wanted something better than FPBASIC. I can at least do that. Edited May 6, 2013 by The Usotsuki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 (edited) I personally would like to see a port of TurboBASIC (Atari XL) ... might be an easier learning curve for those already familiar with the Atari XL. A port of Action! would also be cool. Edited May 8, 2013 by Synthpopalooza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dauber Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Just curious....I got a shipment notification two weeks ago, which shocked the heck out of me....was it maybe just the label generation or something that set off the notification at USPS??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loktar Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I messaged Curt, but I found out about this way too late I'm willing to pay double in order to get my hands on one. So when someone gets one and if they end up not wanting it.. and wants to make $150 let me know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Ya dont have to pay double. they have enough parts to make lots more. just wait after they are released and get in second batch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loktar Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Ya dont have to pay double. they have enough parts to make lots more. just wait after they are released and get in second batch. Ah nice, I assumed this was a one time thing and I was kicking myself for not finding out about it sooner. Thats great to know, heh I don't *really* want to pay $300 but if thats what it took to get one I would, I know the homebrew for it is going to be pretty awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Looks like you can still order it here: http://www.syzygycompany.com/store/ Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loktar Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Looks like you can still order it here: http://www.syzygycompany.com/store/ Mitch Went there first, unfortunately they're sold out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
128Kgames Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Went there first, unfortunately they're sold out Yeah, the pay with Amazon link is gone from this page too: http://www.atarimuse...7800/expansion/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinks Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Just hang on like i said and get one on the second batch.. The first batch is sold out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coleco Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Well, any updates? The last one on the web page promised something in two weeks, but that was on May 27. Is Curt OK? Is the design final and production under way? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariFriend Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 There has not been an official update since May IIRC. Would be nice to think this thing might ship this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Latest updates here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxpro Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Has anyone mentioned porting the XE version of Midi Maze over to the XM? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbramley Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Is the 7800 Expansion module still available, if so where do I purchase one, cost and are they PAL compatible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoyx Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Pre-orders are done. No more orders until it ships, which will be ??? Meanwhile... a DK XM demo video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieCcQ99qFPY Is the 7800 Expansion module still available, if so where do I purchase one, cost and are they PAL compatible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erpa Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Where this module can be purchased and also games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoyx Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Pre-orders are done. No more orders until it ships, which will be ??? Where this module can be purchased and also games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromod Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) With the stereo/surround mod for all retro consoles you'll get stereo surround sound without any change on existing software. As it is combined with AV mod (an excellent one near S-Video and RGB in the future) you'll get better sound and video for about $30. Consoles with that mod are already sold at ebay including all sorts of 2600, 7800, XEGS, coleco and intellivision game systems. Not sure if it make sense to extend an old system with new functions requiring new software to use it. Specially as the number of developers for the 7800 are limited not expecting too much software and a split in target market. Amiga never survived the hardware fractioning due to system enhancements not compatible with the rest of the fans. In comparison with the stereo/surround demo video for coleco vision on youtube the above audio output for Donkey Kong sounds not really better. May be I should create an Atari 7800 demo video as well for the stereo/surround sound using Donkey Kong as reference Edited January 9, 2014 by retromod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 With the stereo/surround mod for all retro consoles you'll get stereo surround sound without any change on existing software. As it is combined with AV mod (an excellent one near S-Video and RGB in the future) you'll get better sound and video for about $30. Consoles with that mod are already sold at ebay including all sorts of 2600, 7800, XEGS, coleco and intellivision game systems. Not sure if it make sense to extend an old system with new functions requiring new software to use it. Specially as the number of developers for the 7800 are limited not expecting too much software and a split in target market. Amiga never survived the hardware fractioning due to system enhancements not compatible with the rest of the fans. In comparison with the stereo/surround demo video for coleco vision on youtube the above audio output for Donkey Kong sounds not really better. May be I should create an Atari 7800 demo video as well for the stereo/surround sound using Donkey Kong as reference Wow, retromod. You have certainly 'covered' many different forums on this site promoting the stereo/surround mod. In such a very short span of time you have a couple in this 7800 forum alone. Some may see such 'coverage' as spam: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/220614-atari-7800-real-stereo-surround-mod/?view=findpost&p=2902142 http://atariage.com/forums/topic/220616-intellivision-stereosurround-mod/?view=findpost&p=2902185 http://atariage.com/forums/topic/220612-real-stereosurround-for-ataricolecointellivision-consoles-on-palntsc/?view=findpost&p=2902118 http://atariage.com/forums/topic/220257-help-with-5v-colecovision-mod-rev-c/?view=findpost&p=2902198 http://atariage.com/forums/topic/220578-modded-colecovision-with-all-mods/?view=findpost&p=2902177 Negative comments about Yurkie's ColecoVision mod as well...Really? Undoubtedly, you are enthusiastic about your product, to say the least. It's particularly funny that you have a notion of what a ColecoVision mod "should also include": http://atariage.com/forums/topic/220578-modded-colecovision-with-all-mods/?do=findComment&comment=2902190 "A full modded coleco should also include: backlight mod power led mod internal power supply mod RGB mod instead of AV stereo/surround audio mod" In your excitement of this homebrew hardware, is it really necessary to try and promote the stereo/surround mod product while also tearing down the (homebrew) hardware efforts of others? As mentioned in other places, developers, for software and hardware, will decide for themselves where they, and for what they wish to, create. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromod Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) Hi Trebor, thanks. It was not my intension to trash someone sorry for that or telling mine is better than others. It was only that $249 dollar sounds quite high for limited mods. Specially as there are other mods available which are not included not only offered by me. In europe we would sent our laywers to competitors if they tell customers something which is not true As each entry is for each system it is far away from spam it is only the problem that I post it at once and not every month one progress. You can not buy anything yet except modded consoles so there is no "business" expectation behind. As others promote their stuff and expect real business (like some coleco offers ) it is quite fair if I tell people there is something "new" by the above threads. The coleco post btw. was posted in "marketplace" so it is not really homebrew hardware it is more a business offer specially as he offers mods on regular base he acts as a company (if european tax laws are taken). this is the big diffference. Expect more products as RGB mod is currently in development and I hope the stereo/surround is available by local dealers as it really makes the difference in arcade feeling (oh no more advertising ) the XM extension is great but from retro point of view it may fail as it requires NEW software. new software and extended functionality is a problem because as seen in history it splits your system into different groups. One the majority who has only the "old" standard system and a few using the "new" one. So guess how attractive it is for developers to develop for one of these groups. In sum the XM extension offers something which has no benefit for old installed base. This is also outlined in several posts and threads. There is a missing "killer feature" so old games benefit from the extension, too. The dual pokey is such an extension with in collector or retro-fan circle is not really loved. Developers can ensure to develop for the whole community and not loosing focus in serving single one. See the Amiga and Atari ST history of extensions - that demonstrates how you can ruin system. An amiga or atari st is sold for about $5 in ebay..... that tells much. The donkey kong demo sound great for an Atari 7800 but is it worth spending nearly $120 and waiting until your favorite game is modified to benefit from the extension iff you are able to simple install a mod having all your beloved titles in Stereo/Surround even without modification? I'll guess you think twice about it. And this was my opinion from the beginning years ago I've heared about the XM extension. Edited January 9, 2014 by retromod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 In europe we would sent our laywers to competitors if they tell customers something which is not true In America we have something called defamation of character. What you are doing, even with your last response, is not good for your reputation or business including promotion of product. All of this that you edit/added: the XM extension is great but from retro point of view it may fail as it requires NEW software. new software and extended functionality is a problem because as seen in history it splits your system into different groups. One the majority who has only the "old" standard system and a few using the "new" one. So guess how attractive it is for developers to develop for one of these groups. In sum the XM extension offers something which has no benefit for old installed base. This is also outlined in several posts and threads. There is a missing "killer feature" so old games benefit from the extension, too. The dual pokey is such an extension with in collector or retro-fan circle is not really loved. Developers can ensure to develop for the whole community and not loosing focus in serving single one. See the Amiga and Atari ST history of extensions - that demonstrates how you can ruin system. An amiga or atari st is sold for about $5 in ebay..... that tells much. The donkey kong demo sound great for an Atari 7800 but is it worth spending nearly $120 and waiting until your favorite game is modified to benefit from the extension iff you are able to simple install a mod having all your beloved titles in Stereo/Surround even without modification? I'll guess you think twice about it. And this was my opinion from the beginning years ago I've heared about the XM extension. The real purpose is to make this point: The donkey kong demo sound great for an Atari 7800 but is it worth spending nearly $120 and waiting until your favorite game is modified to benefit from the extension iff you are able to simple install a [my] mod having all your beloved titles in Stereo/Surround even without modification. Your point and intension is well understood; logic, not so much. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromod Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Ok it seems you do not know the technical difference. The xm can not be at any time in stereo as it feeds only mono into the console. The mod i have created modulates the monosignal inside the console and creates real stereo and surround improving the single audio as well by changing and adding tones. So your interpretion is not true. The only benefit without xm is the better sound so it sounds similar to the xm. The highscore card, pokey, memory etc is not covered. I ve checked the donkey kong demo and it sounds really similar with old sound chip. Sure you have more possibilities with the xm chips but that requires new software as dual pokey for xl requires. I own one and can not use it as all the titles played are unmodified. Could it be we hit the barrier of non native english speakers? Because your answer regarding blaming indicates some wrong interpretation. I know curt from several mail threads and discussion about projects , sent him some rare stuff for the upcoming book. I wish him all the best, too. And as told there is no business intension else i would post prices, offering components. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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