rocky007 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 - I just bought some modules today, and i found a Mechatronics Extended Basic I. I searched on whtech for user manuel, i didn't found. Somebody could give me the pdf ? - Can i remplace the ROM of this card by the rom of Supergraphx basic ? Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew180 Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I picked on of those up at a retro computer show about a year or so ago. I recently opened it up to reverse engineer the circuit board since it does GROM emulation. The board is pretty complex and I don't think swapping any of the 3 ROMs is going to work. It is not like a multi-cart board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humeur Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 yes but this does not change. we must change the component that should decode addresses. the prom is 32*8 as 18s030 27s19 7603...... jean louis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky007 Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 thanks... and as i can't find the user manual, what the difference between E.B. and E.B II ? ( i'm nt talking about the supergraphx) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ti99iuc Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 thanks... and as i can't find the user manual, what the difference between E.B. and E.B II ? ( i'm nt talking about the supergraphx) Hi ! as we can see in the picture, it seems that the first mechatronic XB cart was sold with the normal TI XB manual... the the XBII, instead, over the normal manual have a one more, with explained the new added instruction for graphic (circle, line ecc...), more manage the VDP, hardcopy routine ecc... i have a german, english and Italian Manual manual, i will upload on my site soon if interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky007 Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 thanks... and as i can't find the user manual, what the difference between E.B. and E.B II ? ( i'm nt talking about the supergraphx) Hi ! as we can see in the picture, it seems that the first mechatronic XB cart was sold with the normal TI XB manual... the the XBII, instead, over the normal manual have a one more, with explained the new added instruction for graphic (circle, line ecc...), more manage the VDP, hardcopy routine ecc... i have a german, english and Italian Manual manual, i will upload on my site soon if interested. very interesting that TI allowed to mechatronics the license to produce exactly the same basic.. I also read that the mechatronics official dealers proposed the Supergraph upgrade from the Extended Basic 2 card, in modifying the cardridge directly in shop... ( free eprom slot inside or eprom swap ? ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ti99iuc Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I also read that the mechatronics official dealers proposed the Supergraph upgrade from the Extended Basic 2 card, in modifying the cardridge directly in shop... ( free eprom slot inside or eprom swap ? ). I do not know this things about Supergraph upgrade... sorry... this is the internal cart of one of mine XBII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humeur Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I also read that the mechatronics official dealers proposed the Supergraph upgrade from the Extended Basic 2 card, in modifying the cardridge directly in shop... ( free eprom slot inside or eprom swap ? ). I do not know this things about Supergraph upgrade... sorry... this is the internal cart of one of mine XBII for upgrade change the n82s23 prom for adress decodage, and change one rom. the prom is not more easy to find. jean louis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky007 Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 I also read that the mechatronics official dealers proposed the Supergraph upgrade from the Extended Basic 2 card, in modifying the cardridge directly in shop... ( free eprom slot inside or eprom swap ? ). I do not know this things about Supergraph upgrade... sorry... this is the internal cart of one of mine XBII i will compare with mine this evening, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) Here's the manual for Mechatronics XB II+ and the Apesoft routines that came with the cart. mechaxb.zip Edited February 23, 2011 by Opry99er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opry99er Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I always wanted one of these carts--- never found one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humeur Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I always wanted one of these carts--- never found one though. if I find one I'll contact jean louis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+acadiel Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 I just bought one of these on eBay, and boy, someone was fighting me for it... drove up the price pretty high.. ugh I want it to study it and learn how the logic chips are emulating GROM - I know Tursi and others have FPGAs and stuff to do that, but I want to learn from the ground up; otherwise I never will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky007 Posted April 23, 2011 Author Share Posted April 23, 2011 I just bought one of these on eBay, and boy, someone was fighting me for it... drove up the price pretty high.. ugh I want it to study it and learn how the logic chips are emulating GROM - I know Tursi and others have FPGAs and stuff to do that, but I want to learn from the ground up; otherwise I never will. aaargh !! are you talking about the one finished yesterday ? I tryed 70 USD.. and finally finished at the incredible price of 99 USD ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 I want it to study it and learn how the logic chips are emulating GROM - I know Tursi and others have FPGAs and stuff to do that, but I want to learn from the ground up; otherwise I never will. No FPGA in mine, mine is all software. C, even! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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