Victor Marsillo Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) So, anyone else see the auction for that sealed Death Trap for the 2600 on eBay that ended early? Edited March 8, 2011 by Victor Marsillo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari181 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Yeah I noticed it on my watch list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Marsillo Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 Yeah I noticed it on my watch list That's more than a little upsetting. I had e-mailed the seller, asking if there were any noticeable flaws, or a price sticker, on the box, and he said no, which was yesterday. Today, it's "no longer available." *sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbite Bailey Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Yeah I noticed it on my watch list That's more than a little upsetting. I had e-mailed the seller, asking if there were any noticeable flaws, or a price sticker, on the box, and he said no, which was yesterday. Today, it's "no longer available." *sigh* Welcome to the real world...Side-Dealer City 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybingo Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Yeah I noticed it on my watch list That's more than a little upsetting. I had e-mailed the seller, asking if there were any noticeable flaws, or a price sticker, on the box, and he said no, which was yesterday. Today, it's "no longer available." *sigh* Welcome to the real world...Side-Dealer City No self respecting, reputable dealer on eBay would do such a thing...but are there actually any of those left??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Marsillo Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 I could help but ask him what happened. He told me his daughter inadvertently sold it in her shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbite Bailey Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 @BennyBingo:Few and far between my friend. They are out there though Dautgher sold it in her shop; possible??? Translation...someone made me a good cash offer on the side and I took it. Cheers, FB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybingo Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 @BennyBingo:Few and far between my friend. They are out there though Daugher sold it in her shop; possible??? Translation...someone made me a good cash offer on the side and I took it. Cheers, FB It's really sad...I have a ton of stuff I have avoided buying on eBay just because it is so unscrupulous these days. I'm also apprehensive to sell on there as well. I hear horror stories all the time about buyers who open up a (fraudulent) complaint case with eBay and end up getting a refund without returning items! Nonsense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari181 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I hate to say it but I have done the same thing before as well. If someone offers me significantly more than what it is worth I have ended auctions before. I sell magazines to support my Atari habbit and only spend the money that I make. More money I can get more games, simple but money talks and unfortunately I too have done the exact same thing that agravates me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbite Bailey Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 I hate to say it but I have done the same thing before as well. If someone offers me significantly more than what it is worth I have ended auctions before. I sell magazines to support my Atari habbit and only spend the money that I make. More money I can get more games, simple but money talks and unfortunately I too have done the exact same thing that agravates me as well. When in Rome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 I like how people keep complaining about side deals. They suck, but there's nothing you can do with them, ultimately the seller can sell their item how they want. If you can avoid fees with a Paypal gift, well, most people would probably go that route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbite Bailey Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 I like how people keep complaining about side deals. They suck, but there's nothing you can do with them, ultimately the seller can sell their item how they want. If you can avoid fees with a Paypal gift, well, most people would probably go that route. No complaints here ...just plain facts! Member asked the question why? I gave them the answer. Side-deals are a part of the game; it's all about the game and how you play it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari181 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) Now that it has shipped I can say that It was I who purchased the item, I didn't want anyone to gult him into refunding my payment. Offering a fair price to a seller sometimes you loose sometimes you win but if they agree you for sure have the item you were seeking. The seller may need money right away or is just happy not paying fees. I am sure he didn't want to hear anyone complain that he sold it so he made up the story. The seller,Jack, is a very trustworthy seller and I talked with him at length about the transaction. Even having not recieved the item I can recommend him as a seller as he is definately a good man. Edited March 9, 2011 by atari181 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbite Bailey Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Now that it has shipped I can say that It was I who purchased the item, I didn't want anyone to gult him into refunding my payment. Offering a fair price to a seller sometimes you loose sometimes you win but if they agree you for sure have the item you were seeking. The seller may need money right away or is just happy not paying fees. I am sure he didn't want to hear anyone complain that he sold it so he made up the story. The seller,Jack, is a very trustworthy seller and I talked with him at length about the transaction. Even having not recieved the item I can recommend him as a seller as he is definately a good man. Good on you mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBlazer Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I kind of have mixed feelings about this. You certinaly have the right to offer the seller a fair deal to get him to end the auction early, but isn't that aganist EBay's rules and could be reported? And how do you know that the OP and other people wouldn't have gotten the final auction price up higher then what you offered, meaning the seller LOST money by not letting it run? I would never make a side offer, or end a auction early. But I suspose I'm a dying breed. I just feel bad for the OP who was clearly interested in getting the item and was playing by the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari181 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I am not sure of the verage on Ebays rules about it. obviously they do not want it happening, but they really cannot tell anyone what to do with an item that he/she owns. The seller absolutely could have lost out on some money he also could have made more than what it would have fetched. As I have said I too have ended auctions in the same manner and gotten more than the item would have been bid up to and I was sure I got the best deal. Maybe not but I was happy and the buyer was happy. Wether or not Ebay goet there fees really doesn't mater to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetset Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I kind of have mixed feelings about this. You certinaly have the right to offer the seller a fair deal to get him to end the auction early, but isn't that aganist EBay's rules and could be reported? And how do you know that the OP and other people wouldn't have gotten the final auction price up higher then what you offered, meaning the seller LOST money by not letting it run? I would never make a side offer, or end a auction early. But I suspose I'm a dying breed. I just feel bad for the OP who was clearly interested in getting the item and was playing by the rules. It is against Ebay's tos and very bad form. Side-dealers are a huge part of why the very fees they slither around are so high. I guess all's fair in love and ebay, but side deals . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbite Bailey Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I kind of have mixed feelings about this. You certinaly have the right to offer the seller a fair deal to get him to end the auction early, but isn't that aganist EBay's rules and could be reported? And how do you know that the OP and other people wouldn't have gotten the final auction price up higher then what you offered, meaning the seller LOST money by not letting it run? I would never make a side offer, or end a auction early. But I suspose I'm a dying breed. I just feel bad for the OP who was clearly interested in getting the item and was playing by the rules. It is against Ebay's tos and very bad form. Side-dealers are a huge part of why the very fees they slither around are so high. I guess all's fair in love and ebay, but side deals . Better read Ebay's rules a little more carefully. It is okay to make an offer to the seller if there are #1. no bids on the item, or #2 you are the high bidder. Now if neither one of those is the situation, then yes, according to their rules it is not permitted. Sucks, but it is true. Cheers, FB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Now that it has shipped I can say that It was I who purchased the item, I didn't want anyone to gult him into refunding my payment. Woah, you got off way easier than when I admitted to a side deal here about 4 years ago He told me his daughter inadvertently sold it in her shop. I don't really have a huge problem with side-dealings personally, but lying about it is pretty shitty if you ask me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm aware eBay does not condone you doing this, but once when I tried to argue about it because of an auction I had already bid on, they responded with basically the comment I posted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kheffington Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 (edited) Better read Ebay's rules a little more carefully. It is okay to make an offer to the seller if there are #1. no bids on the item, or #2 you are the high bidder. Now if neither one of those is the situation, then yes, according to their rules it is not permitted. Sucks, but it is true. Cheers, FB That is not exactly true. It is totally against the eBay TOS to offer to buy outside of eBay and your account can be suspended for it. The only thing that they allow is to ask the seller to end the auction at the current bid. Anything else is a violation of the TOS. Here is from eBay: We don't allow our members to use eBay to contact each other to make offers to buy or sell items outside of eBay. Also, members can't use information obtained from eBay to contact each other about buying or selling outside of eBay. If you receive an offer to buy or sell outside eBay, please report it using the appropriate link. ALLOWED: Sellers can end a listing early in order to sell an item at the current bid price to the high bidder. Bidders can ask sellers to end a listing early and sell at the current bid price, but sellers don't have to honor the request. NOT ALLOWED: Using member contact information obtained from eBay or using any eBay system to offer to sell any listed item outside of eBay. Canceling a listing to sell to a buyer who found the item on eBay. Ending a listing early to sell the item to the winning bidder a price higher than the current bid. Offering to sell an item to a non-winning bidder without using Second Chance Offer. Why does eBay have this policy? Offers to buy or sell outside of eBay are a potential fraud risk for both buyers and sellers, and are not protected by eBay protection programs. Additionally, these offers may be an attempt to avoid eBay fees. This is unfair to other sellers and violates our policies. Edited March 10, 2011 by kheffington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 We don't allow our members to use eBay to contact each other to make offers to buy or sell items outside of eBay. Also, members can't use information obtained from eBay to contact each other about buying or selling outside of eBay. Good luck enforcing that. ..Al 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kheffington Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 We don't allow our members to use eBay to contact each other to make offers to buy or sell items outside of eBay. Also, members can't use information obtained from eBay to contact each other about buying or selling outside of eBay. Good luck enforcing that. ..Al Yeah for sure they can't but it is against the policy not allowed under the TOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Yeah for sure they can't but it is against the policy not allowed under the TOS. I agree it's under their TOS, but it's wishful thinking and greed on their part. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostbite Bailey Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Better read Ebay's rules a little more carefully. It is okay to make an offer to the seller if there are #1. no bids on the item, or #2 you are the high bidder. Now if neither one of those is the situation, then yes, according to their rules it is not permitted. Sucks, but it is true. Cheers, FB That is not exactly true. It is totally against the eBay TOS to offer to buy outside of eBay and your account can be suspended for it. The only thing that they allow is to ask the seller to end the auction at the current bid. Anything else is a violation of the TOS. Here is from eBay: We don't allow our members to use eBay to contact each other to make offers to buy or sell items outside of eBay. Also, members can't use information obtained from eBay to contact each other about buying or selling outside of eBay. If you receive an offer to buy or sell outside eBay, please report it using the appropriate link. ALLOWED: Sellers can end a listing early in order to sell an item at the current bid price to the high bidder. Bidders can ask sellers to end a listing early and sell at the current bid price, but sellers don't have to honor the request. NOT ALLOWED: Using member contact information obtained from eBay or using any eBay system to offer to sell any listed item outside of eBay. Canceling a listing to sell to a buyer who found the item on eBay. Ending a listing early to sell the item to the winning bidder a price higher than the current bid. Offering to sell an item to a non-winning bidder without using Second Chance Offer. Why does eBay have this policy? Offers to buy or sell outside of eBay are a potential fraud risk for both buyers and sellers, and are not protected by eBay protection programs. Additionally, these offers may be an attempt to avoid eBay fees. This is unfair to other sellers and violates our policies. Sellers can end a listing early in order to sell an item at the current bid price to the high bidder. I thought that is what I said: no bids on the item=current bid or if you are the high bidder you can ask them to end it? Good luck enforcing it is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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