Wickeycolumbus Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 One big problem with PP is that it can't be properly dumped due to a technical reason. This may have changed though, I'm not sure. Tempest, Do you know of any other VCS games that can't be dumped due to technical reasons? I always thought that any VCS cart could be dumped. I know that CPU had a hard time dumping Mazy Match (T.U.G.), but is Pink Panther even harder to dump? I don't really understand the reason myself. IIRC there was a big resistor pack on the cart that was causing issues. I'm not an electronics guy so I don't understand the reason for the resistor pack in the first place or why it was causing problems. I assume all the PP protos are the same way (the two I've seen are anyway), but I could be wrong. Tempest Looks like a 4K game... did whoever tried dumping it try dumping the EPROM directly? What about using a 2600 based method like the SaveKey or batari's serial port dumper? I believe it's an 8kRom/2kRam cart. It's clearly not, have a look at the PCB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 LOL Now thats an understatement if I've ever heard one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceDice2010 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 That's not a 4k game. no way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Elliot Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 That's not a 4k game. no way. It isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceDice2010 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 8k Rom / 2k Ram - I would almost place a bet on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 That's not a 4k game. no way. It isn't. Interesting. I've never seen an eprom like that before. PS: @ MetalVic, please let me know if you did not get my last personal message (PM) in your PM box. Thanks!! - Wonder007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Elliot Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 That's not a 4k game. no way. It isn't. Interesting. I've never seen an eprom like that before. Probably because it isn't an EPROM. @SpaceDice2010: It's not 2K, but it does have RAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceDice2010 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) Some more info - problems with the "ram" in the carts. Edited April 1, 2011 by SpaceDice2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 That's not a 4k game. no way. It isn't. Interesting. I've never seen an eprom like that before. Probably because it isn't an EPROM. @SpaceDice2010: It's not 2K, but it does have RAM. What, RAM....this gets more interesting by the minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceDice2010 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 That's not a 4k game. no way. It isn't. Interesting. I've never seen an eprom like that before. Probably because it isn't an EPROM. @SpaceDice2010: It's not 2K, but it does have RAM. Okay. That explains it. I know what it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceDice2010 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 That's not a 4k game. no way. It isn't. Interesting. I've never seen an eprom like that before. Probably because it isn't an EPROM. @SpaceDice2010: It's not 2K, but it does have RAM. What, RAM....this gets more interesting by the minute. The original design that US Games was going to release had a Rom/Ram configuration. The reason that Probe gave for cancelling their games was a "ram" shortage or "technical" problems. Not sure which one to believe or if they just wanted to bail out of the industry and was looking for an excuse. I am pretty certain that I know what the bad boy has got at its core... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Listen to hugged, he knows what he is talking about, seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceDice2010 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) I know he does... And I bet this is a bitch to dump. Edited April 1, 2011 by SpaceDice2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickeycolumbus Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 That's not a 4k game. no way. It isn't. Interesting. I've never seen an eprom like that before. Probably because it isn't an EPROM. @SpaceDice2010: It's not 2K, but it does have RAM. I certainly didn't expect that. Perhaps they meant 2 kilobits in the advertisements? Hope this doesn't stop you from making repros (though I'm sure the melody could be used). By the way... any chance this thread has something to do with Pink Panther? http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/158620-bank-switching/page__p__1948574 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceDice2010 Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Listen to hugged, he knows what he is talking about, seriously. What happened to the pink avatar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceDice2010 Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 That's not a 4k game. no way. It isn't. Interesting. I've never seen an eprom like that before. Probably because it isn't an EPROM. @SpaceDice2010: It's not 2K, but it does have RAM. I certainly didn't expect that. Perhaps they meant 2 kilobits in the advertisements? Hope this doesn't stop you from making repros (though I'm sure the melody could be used). By the way... any chance this thread has something to do with Pink Panther? http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/158620-bank-switching/page__p__1948574 More than that; but the RAM is bankswitced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 Listen to hugged, he knows what he is talking about, seriously. I don't listen to people who have split personalities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebus Capucinis Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 I don't listen to people who burn rare boxes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 "though I'm sure the melody could be used" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickeycolumbus Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 "though I'm sure the melody could be used" You really need to grow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubular Gearhead Posted April 2, 2011 Share Posted April 2, 2011 This is interesting as hell. I sure do hope you guys end up putting Pink Panther on a cartridge and selling some- I will surely buy one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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