Dino Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 eBay Auction -- Item Number: 170639186927 He's used a stock Lochjaw photo and is porbably hoping someone will get excited and hit the BIN without reading the description Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allhallowseve2000 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I don't think it's a stock photo - corners are squared (real lochjaw is rounded) - also, end label is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolRetroGamer Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 He's made it more than clear who made it in the description, nothing wrong with the listing, if someone is so impulsive / impatient they hit the bin without reading further than so be it. A Fool and his money are soon parted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 He's made it more than clear who made it in the description, nothing wrong with the listing, if someone is so impulsive / impatient they hit the bin without reading further than so be it. A Fool and his money are soon parted. I disagree. If you are selling a repro, then the word repro should be used in the title of the listing, as it is a critical part of the listing. This looks like a legit lochjaw from the photo and a collector may see the price at $75 and hit the BIN automatically, in the hope that someone else does not beat him to it and thus without reading the description. This is what the seller is hoping for, which is why the seller is being dishonest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 The $75.00 is dishonest all by itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofrills100 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I'll see your lockjaw, and raise you $225 eBay Auction -- Item Number: 120722532526 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofrills100 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I reckon there is some photoshop going on in that Lochjaw listing. In the out of focus image - is that a hozer head on the front label (bottom right)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schitti Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I reckon there is some photoshop going on in that Lochjaw listing. In the out of focus image - is that a hozer head on the front label (bottom right)? I have thought the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduecrum Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 He finally got a negative feedback for similar auctions. I find it funny that someone was disappointed that the Hozer mark was NOT on a label: "Item as described but wish it had Hozer marking on it (not seller's fault) Thx!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybingo Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 He finally got a negative feedback for similar auctions. I find it funny that someone was disappointed that the Hozer mark was NOT on a label: "Item as described but wish it had Hozer marking on it (not seller's fault) Thx!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Weird, are Hozer carts becoming "collectible" to some, even to the point where you're disappointed that the stupid Hozer head isn't on the cart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holygrailvideogames.com Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Take a look at the seller's Halloween cart. I am sure that a lot of people will see it and think it is the original. It will probably sell for over $100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20ohm20 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) eBay Auction -- Item Number: 120722532526 "This copy was produced by Hozer games. THE ORIGINAL GAME WAS MADE BY SIMAGE, Which means THIS CARTRIDGE is a REPRODUCTION." Edited May 10, 2011 by 20ohm20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Blurry photos to hide Hozer face - check. Mention made by Hozer at bottom of posting - check. No mention of the word 'reproduction' - check. Starting price of $75, implying this is actually worth $75 or more - check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trade-N-Games Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Funny I love Hozer carts. I used to get them from him. Last time I got one from him was 99/2000. I think I have over 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybingo Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 If only P.T. Barnum were alive.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Weird, are Hozer carts becoming "collectible" to some, even to the point where you're disappointed that the stupid Hozer head isn't on the cart? Some of the earlier stuff is, he was a legitimate homebrew seller for a long time. I used to buy stuff from him before I even knew of Atariage (I was old school, no computer - lol) when I joined here I learned about all the dis-honesty and my image of him was tainted (although I still don't see how he makes any money selling games for $11?) but selling other peoples homebrew work without there permission is wrong no matter how you look at it, if he profits or not. The last list he sent me (several years ago) had quite a few AA homebrews on it that were being made illegally so I stopped buying from him. Sure, if you want a cheap Air Raid or Eli's ladder he's the man, but the fact that he will not stop selling other peoples games (that do not want him to sell them) is reason enough for me to avoid him now. Oh, by the way, I agree this Ebay sale is dis-honest. The pic (even if it is real) is purposely being made to look like a real cart in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20ohm20 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 eBay Auction -- Item Number: 170639186927 To: atarigame18 Subject: Details about item: Lochjaw Atari 2600 7800 #170639186927 Sent Date: May-10-11 08:09:09 PDT Dear atarigame18, Does your copy have any markings on the labels stating that it's a reproduction *and* made by Hozer? From: atarigame18 Subject: Details about item: Lochjaw Atari 2600 7800 #170639186927 Sent Date: May-10-11 08:56:04 PDT no, no matkings, not sure why it doesnt have any. To: atarigame18 Subject: Details about item: Lochjaw Atari 2600 7800 #170639186927 Sent Date: May-10-11 09:23:09 PDT Dear atarigame18, Just curious - how do you know it is a Hozer reproduction then? Oddly, they stopped responding to me at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricDeLee Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 He's made it more than clear who made it in the description, nothing wrong with the listing, if someone is so impulsive / impatient they hit the bin without reading further than so be it. A Fool and his money are soon parted. I disagree. If you are selling a repro, then the word repro should be used in the title of the listing, as it is a critical part of the listing. This looks like a legit lochjaw from the photo and a collector may see the price at $75 and hit the BIN automatically, in the hope that someone else does not beat him to it and thus without reading the description. This is what the seller is hoping for, which is why the seller is being dishonest I tried that route.. it got my selling privelages banned for 2 weeks. I was honest, made it VERY clear that it was a REPRODUCTION. Yet... it got yanked and I got banned for 2 weeks. Yet... I can sit here and watch this guy sell stuff every day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtshark7 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 would this be an official copy of TCM? I'm assuming no since this is the sellers second sale? Thanks! eBay Auction -- Item Number: 290564237269 -Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20ohm20 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 (edited) would this be an official copy of TCM? I'm assuming no since this is the sellers second sale? Thanks! eBay Auction -- Item Number: 290564237269 -Mark Everything that seller lists are reproductions, he even admitted it to me in an e-mail (see the rest of the e-mails from him above): From: atarigame18 Subject: Details about item: Lochjaw Atari 2600 7800 #170639186927 Sent Date: May-10-11 13:39:13 PDT Pretty sure, I was told it was when I bought it, doesn't have that face on it though, all of the games I have up are Repros. If your interested I can sell it for like $40. I pay $25 for the carts at the Flea Market and after fees that is about the lowest I can go. Isn't making deals outside of eBay against their TOS? He obviously has multiples of all the repro carts he's selling, but I'm not sure I believe he's just buying them from someone at a "flea market". Edit: just noticed that the eBay listing above is actually a different seller. The comments above are actually re: the eBay seller "atarigame18" and all of his current listings. Edited May 11, 2011 by 20ohm20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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