FND Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Recently had a bad experience with Ebay Member estate-find I purchased this ebay auction eBay Auction -- Item Number: 230630912849 I was mostly interested in the Checkers game and the White Channel F Box Shipping was only "10.10 Expedited Shipping" When I recieved the package it was Postage Due. to the sellers credit I contacted him and was given a refund of the postage Due. The second problem was the packaging it was all smashed into the White Channel F Box and pushed into another box nearly the exact same size, no packing or protection and since some of the games were on top of the channel F cover it was cracked and some damage to the game boxes was evident since I was really only interested in the White Box and Checkers game I did not even mention this problem to the seller and figured I would just let it go as I did get what I was interested in and he did refund the postage. Next I get constant ebay messages asking for feedback ? I ignored the first few but after the third or fouth pushy messages asking for it I granted his request and left Neutral Feed back. I then started to get constant messages complaining that he had given me such a deal and questing weather it was indeed postage due ? Again I ignored the first few but this last one I had to respond to. Here are the last two first was his message second is my final response His last message " Dear f-n-d, I am not at all sure what your problem is with the auction you purchased from me as I believe you received a great deal at an incredible price, and your subsequent lack of communication skills, therefore I am placing your ebay account on my blocked list for the rest of the various Fairchild auction items and other various 1st generation items I will be listing on the ebay " My Last response " Dear estate-find, Apparently you have too much time on your hands and are becoming bothersome. You have already been put on my "not to be dealt with list" so go ahead and block me that will help out in the event I make a mistake and forget. The only reason I left feedback at all was because you were being a pest about it so I went ahead and left the best I could, your really lucky it was not a Negative which you truly deserved. As you must remember I sent you pictures of the package with the postage due sticker from the post office so your snide comment that I "claimed it was postage Due" was rather uncalled for as you were given proof. I however did not mention or send you the pictures of the over stuffed package you mailed with no protection for the items inside. The one game I was interested had some damage to its box when it was pushed through the plastic cover of the Channel F game system due to you trying to smash to much into a box I did not mention the broken cover or damaged box and just chalked it up to another bad seller and was going to just let it go but your constant pestering for feedback forced my hand and I went ahead and granted your request. It should have been a Negative but I was being Nice. In closing this is the last I want to hear from you. Do not contact me again If you send me any more messages through ebay of by any other means I will contact ebay with a complaint of harassment. " Have I been unreasonable ? I only left Neutral, maybe I should of let him know sooner but really I did not want to continue this and was trying to just let it go . Looking back I truly believe it would of continued back and fourth as he seems to be the type who will not let it go. POSTAGE DUE STICKER Mailed using 3 lb 15 oz and as shown it was really 10 lb 11 oz Top of box with the Wax paper box on top to show how much higher the middle is then the rest of the box Bottom of box with the Wax paper box on top to show how much higher the middle is then the rest of the box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Dart Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Should've been a negative. **** 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorGamer Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Can you post pix of the package's contents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FND Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 Should've been a negative. **** 'em. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorGamer Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 People really are just getting goofier and goofier to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FND Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 ... Much more to the point than my "Thank You" Neutral post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horseboy Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Did the Checkers box come out ok? My snipe was a bit to low to register on this one, but I really wanted that Checkers. Definitely one of the toughest non-demo games to get. Too bad he shipped it like 4 year old would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FND Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 Did the Checkers box come out ok? My snipe was a bit to low to register on this one, but I really wanted that Checkers. Definitely one of the toughest non-demo games to get. Too bad he shipped it like 4 year old would. Actually NO it arrived with some minor damage on the back of the checkers box, lucky though as it could of been much worse, it was the one game on top of the Channel F plastic cover that arrived cracked had there been much more pressure on the outside of the box I am sure it would of broken through fully and probably would of torn /ripped the (checkers)box Side note I am now convinced the White Channel F box was not a shipping box but the Zircon re-release that would of been printed after they ran out of the boxes made up by Fairchild. The reason is there is a wards price tag on the outside of the box showing it must of been sold at a wards also the paper work is for sure from 1982 which was near the end of the Zircon Channel F sales and after there second and last run they had made after running out of the Fairchild stock of games which BTW were all re-released in the Zircon white game boxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horseboy Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 That sucks man. In cases like this I almost always request that the seller take extra care of the important game in the lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FND Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 That sucks man. In cases like this I almost always request that the seller take extra care of the important game in the lot. Oh I did, I asked that the items be packed carfully as I am a collector and the boxes and paper work are more important to me than the game system, apparently he felt stuffing it all in the white channel f box and shoving that into another box was carfull packaging ? BTW I will probably be selling a Boxed checkers in the near future along with my second Alternate version of the number 22 Slot Machine the one without the "Purse" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horseboy Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 Cool. Let me know when they are on the market. I need that Checkers. Do you have a list that you work from that has variants and everything? I haven't been able to find a real good Channel F checklist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FND Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 (edited) Cool. Let me know when they are on the market. I need that Checkers. Do you have a list that you work from that has variants and everything? I haven't been able to find a real good Channel F checklist. Only my personnel list and collection that can be viewed on my web site with pictures of all the different games variations it can be viewed here My web page link Note you can click any of the yellow boarder boxes to be taken move around the site there is much more than just the games there are newpaper articles, time line list, interviews, paperwork, game instructions, pictures and list of game production dates. There is also an international section but it is still under construction. Also I have never updated the number 22 with the alternate version notation as this was only noticed when I had received some games from a Sales Rep with some demo carts and the alternate version was in the collection the second one I had gotten from the son of a guy who may have been working at Zircon as a programer (I could not verify it) There is aother thread here somewhere with screen shots I will try and locate it and edit this message later EDIT: Here is the link to the other thread with pictures of the alternate number 22 thread about alternate number 22 Edited July 13, 2011 by FND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptenmaterial Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 ... Rob is that for real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FND Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 ... Rob is that for real? No it is NOT. The feedback I left for estate-find said "Thank you" and was Neutral feedback Hear is a link to e feedbaack page, at this time the feedback I posted is at the top its by user f-n-d estate-find feedback page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorGamer Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 (edited) ... Rob is that for real? I purposely cut off the user ID so as to not associate FND with my prank feedback Edited July 13, 2011 by rmaerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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