Retro Rogue Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I got one the other day of these flashback 3's from ebay included images here: That's not the release version, it's an earlier pre-release one. The release has the white box. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/187414-official-press-release-for-flashback-3/page/2/#findComment-2373201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
svenski Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I got one the other day of these flashback 3's from ebay included images here: That's not the release version, it's an earlier pre-release one. The release has the white box. Yes, but that pre-release version has been manufactured in some numbers for a retailer like Argos to import it and have their name on the back of it. Questions are why, and what are the differences if any ? 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/187414-official-press-release-for-flashback-3/page/2/#findComment-2373223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Has Argos actually sold any in a red box, or are they simply showing old photos of the pre-release? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/187414-official-press-release-for-flashback-3/page/2/#findComment-2373254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
svenski Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 A couple of people have posted here that Argos have had them for sale in their local stores for the last couple of weeks or so, but personally I haven't seen one and the Argos website has been consistent in showing out of stock which suggests the end of this month release date, however quite a few of the red boxed ones have been on ebay and Amazon. So, none the wiser really. 2 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/187414-official-press-release-for-flashback-3/page/2/#findComment-2373272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 So.... has anyone received one of these units yet? I've tried Googling reviews of it and can't find any so far. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/187414-official-press-release-for-flashback-3/page/2/#findComment-2379152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phredreeke Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I'm curious about the NTSC colors and frame rate timings. I read Curt's post above but I guess I don't totally understand. Unless they did a hack I would expect the colors would be different when plugging this to a PAL television. I assume the timing would be okay as long as the television could do a 60Hz display. I know some of the games didn't adjust for PAL timing originally but I would suspect Adventure II's colors and timing would be off. Since it's running on an emulator the colors should be the same (someone else could probably explain better, but the reason for different colors on PAL and NTSC 2600s is due to the way the TIA generates a color signal. The emulator probably has a pre-defined color look-up table instead and pass that to a modern video encoder) Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/187414-official-press-release-for-flashback-3/page/2/#findComment-2379381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEBRO Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Hi there, I'm curious about the NTSC colors and frame rate timings. I read Curt's post above but I guess I don't totally understand. Unless they did a hack I would expect the colors would be different when plugging this to a PAL television. I assume the timing would be okay as long as the television could do a 60Hz display. I know some of the games didn't adjust for PAL timing originally but I would suspect Adventure II's colors and timing would be off. Since it's running on an emulator the colors should be the same (someone else could probably explain better, but the reason for different colors on PAL and NTSC 2600s is due to the way the TIA generates a color signal. The emulator probably has a pre-defined color look-up table instead and pass that to a modern video encoder) I understand the differences between the systems and that is why I didn't understand. I assumed these would not be emulated. So, has it been confirmed that these are emulated vs. real hardware as the FB2? Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/187414-official-press-release-for-flashback-3/page/2/#findComment-2379826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroovyBee Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I assumed these would not be emulated. So, has it been confirmed that these are emulated vs. real hardware as the FB2? If you look at the large chip in the pictures (Titan 1.0c) in post 19 its a dual core ARM (from what I understand) so they are emulated. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/187414-official-press-release-for-flashback-3/page/2/#findComment-2379840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurge Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Is that unit in the pics. the released version or some prototype? The build quality looks appalling! Hot glue blobs all over the place. This isn't a good move. Tell you what would be a success, a small console that plays the classic Atari arcades, up to Gauntlet. From what I know, the hardware for that would be rather cheap now days. And for goodness sake, NO EMULATION! Real hardware, and real roms from the original arcades. This would be something i'd buy in a flash! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/187414-official-press-release-for-flashback-3/page/2/#findComment-2380818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanallan Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 They are officially on sale at Amazon, I made a thread but forgot this one was here. Search for "flashback" and you'll see it in the white box. If the pics are of a pre-production unit, has anyone gotten a production unit to take apart yet? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005NJ3U32/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=atariage&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=B005NJ3U32 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/187414-official-press-release-for-flashback-3/page/2/#findComment-2380868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phredreeke Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Tell you what would be a success, a small console that plays the classic Atari arcades, up to Gauntlet. From what I know, the hardware for that would be rather cheap now days. And for goodness sake, NO EMULATION! Real hardware, and real roms from the original arcades. This would be something i'd buy in a flash! Doubt arcade games + real hardware would be feasable. There are too many different architectures. Frankly even if the hardcore fans could tell a difference, the average customer wouldn't (provided the emulation was decent) and that's what matters. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/187414-official-press-release-for-flashback-3/page/2/#findComment-2380907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurge Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Tell you what would be a success, a small console that plays the classic Atari arcades, up to Gauntlet. From what I know, the hardware for that would be rather cheap now days. And for goodness sake, NO EMULATION! Real hardware, and real roms from the original arcades. This would be something i'd buy in a flash! Doubt arcade games + real hardware would be feasable. There are too many different architectures. Frankly even if the hardcore fans could tell a difference, the average customer wouldn't (provided the emulation was decent) and that's what matters. I guess what I meant was a console to play classic Arcade games with the same hardware. For eg: Gauntlet, Indiana Jones, Marble Madness etc. All had the same main chipset. CPU 68010 , M6502 and sound chips. Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/187414-official-press-release-for-flashback-3/page/2/#findComment-2381203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrekkiELO Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 They are officially on sale at Amazon, I made a thread but forgot this one was here. Search for "flashback" and you'll see it in the white box. If the pics are of a pre-production unit, has anyone gotten a production unit to take apart yet? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005NJ3U32/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=atariage&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=B005NJ3U32 I thought that they had a new low retail price point of $39.99, down from their originally too high $59.99, what happened?! Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/187414-official-press-release-for-flashback-3/page/2/#findComment-2381414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanallan Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Not sure, but it's starting to look like any other clone of any other system, lots of hype but very short on delivery. 1 Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/187414-official-press-release-for-flashback-3/page/2/#findComment-2381418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+wood_jl Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) The controller cords on the prototype (beginning pics of this thread) look very Ho-Chi Minh. At least on the production version (Amazon link) they look better, but they look VERY short! One of the best things about the FB2 was the sticks. I hope they didn't shorten the cords, and that it's just a photo edit for neatness. Edited October 3, 2011 by wood_jl Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/187414-official-press-release-for-flashback-3/page/2/#findComment-2382540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Looks like it could be a decent product for the average retro gaming fan. Personally...i'll stick to collecting carts and playing on my little toshiba 19 inch... Quote Link to comment https://forums.atariage.com/topic/187414-official-press-release-for-flashback-3/page/2/#findComment-2383011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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