Rybags Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Just saw this on eBay, he wants $50 for an honestly advertised XEGS "Not working" with 2 light guns. I was just typing up an offer for machine only, keep the guns, but decided why bother? Can you see what the problem is? Click SPOILER to reveal second pic which makes it a lot more obvious. Note: absense of keyboard is not the answer. Edited January 8, 2012 by Rybags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbking67 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 its fine if you dont need to type anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 That's not it... I ignored that initially - original post updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybird3rd Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Ah, I get it ... the C64 power supply. The last dead XEGS that I worked on had been used with a C64 power supply also. I had to replace the CPU and the RAM to bring it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebus Capucinis Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Ah, I get it ... the C64 power supply. LOL yep, no need to try to fix that system..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorsten Günther Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Purchased one of those myself from eBay Australia some years ago - as I was only aiming for the games, I didn't bother and gave the XEGS away to another ABBUC member. But I begin seeing a pattern here... Thorsten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 Innocent enough mistake I suppose. But you'd reckon Atari would have realised the potential for disaster at the time the 800XL design was finalised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Innocent enough mistake I suppose. But you'd reckon Atari would have realised the potential for disaster at the time the 800XL design was finalised. I always wondered why Atari used "DIN" Plugs for the A8, even worse for the power supply.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Innocent enough mistake I suppose. But you'd reckon Atari would have realised the potential for disaster at the time the 800XL design was finalised. Is that the reason came with that BRAINDEAD power connector on the Atari 7800? Never seen such a terrible PSU-connector in my life. When you look at it, it'll already have a short power-cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) One extreme to the other. Go from a commonplace connector that could easily lead to mistakes to one that nobody else would ever contemplate including in their design. Actually - maybe not. It has a similar look to some of the connectors used in cars. It'd be the sort of thing they'd use in some inaccessable place with no retaining mechanism, so your stereo would stop working and you'd have to pay the dealer $500 in labour to pull the dash apart to get at it. Edited January 8, 2012 by Rybags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox-1 / mnx Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I always wondered why Atari used "DIN" Plugs for the A8, even worse for the power supply.... They actually put some thought in that. Power is a 7 pin version, which is very uncommon (at least over here) in that pin layout. Monitor is a 5 pin version, very common back then, so easy to get some adapter cables to connect to monitors of other brands since Atari had none of their own. A 5 pin DIN can be connected to the power input but this doesn't harm anything. The reverse is not possible. You can't plug the 7 pin DIN into the monitor connection or any other audio equipment with such a DIN. I think it's much worse power supplies exist with a 5 pin DIN. That's what I'd call not a smart move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) But if it fits it should work! This is a big problem with Atari Jaguar power inputs. People are always thinking they can plug in another adpater (like an NES one) becuase the plug fits, but oops! Forgot about that pesky AC/DC thing...this even happen to one of my Jaguars, becuase I let a friend borrow it, but he forgot the power pack, and even before I discovered it he had already tried an NES power pack and destroyed my Jaggy. This was back when the Jag was new and cost $250! So, with the Commodore power-pack is it an AC/DC thing or wrong power to the wrong pins or what? Edited January 8, 2012 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CharlieChaplin Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Well, if the Commodores (with or without Lionel Richie) are so stupid to put in their power supplies into Atari computers, thats their fault then. Its much worse on the Atari Lynx - here you can use the original Atari Lynx power supply, thanks to the headphones and Com-Lynx cable beneath the power input, one false go and you have a dead Lynx (usually this happens when you use the headphones for the power input)... -Andreas Koch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 So, with the Commodore power-pack is it an AC/DC thing or wrong power to the wrong pins or what? I believe two pins have 9v A/C on them... that would do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopy Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Yes, the C64 psu has 5V DC and 9V AC, and the PSU gets shorted as soon as you plug it in, and then when you turn on the A8, it gets both the 5v and the 9V sent in... So both the A8 and the PSU are most likely to be toast if this is done... sloopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sack-c0s Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 But if it fits it should work! Ever tried doing tech support for the general public? There are some very interesting definitions of 'fits' out there. Personally having to put your entire bodyweight behind forcing a connector in doesn't satisfy my definition but for some people.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Of course, using an Atari supply isn't always safe either. Using an ingot supply with your XE is only slightly better than using a 64 supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox-1 / mnx Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Of course, using an Atari supply isn't always safe either. As is crossing the street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 As is crossing the street. True, but the wise pedestrian doesn't negotiate fast-moving road traffic with their Atari under their arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 As is crossing the street. True, but the wise pedestrian doesn't negotiate fast-moving road traffic with their Atari under their arm. Sounds like you're working on a new game! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamakazi Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 On the Jaguar power supply issue, a power supply from a Sega Genesis model 1 will work a Jaguar without any issues. Actually, if look at both power supplies they are designed identical. I had to replace my Jag's power supply years ago and went to Game X Change to try and find an alternative. When I seen their packaged Genesis model 1 combo and noticed the power supply, I asked to see an original power supply to one. I read all the writing on both power supplies and for the most part, every technical aspect matched. The only difference I seen was one said Sega and the other said Atari. Same shell design and everything. I'm not familiar with a Commodore power supply like that one shown in the picture, but common sense should tell you that Atari is not Commodore and vice versa. Just sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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