liveinabin Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 After almost a year of Gamecube fun, I've decided to see what the rest of the world plays and have bought a PS2. Now I'm very happy with my purchase (DTS on a console - wow!) and my (only:) ) game GTA:Vice City is brilliant. One thing I wanted to ask, though. Is it just GTA:VC or do all PS2 games take as long to load as a Commodore 64?! It was like playing on dialup! The GC and DC don't take anything like this long. Are there any games that have good loading times or is it part of the whole PS2 'zen' design to make us learn patience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnenhexer Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 Another game that takes long is Crash Bandicoot - Wrath of cortex. I play Wizardry - Tale of a forsaken land in the last time, short loading. So not all games take a long time to load. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Cleopatra Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 Devil May Cry doesn't really take that long to load and it is a really awesome game But if long load times really bother you stay away from No One Lives Forever. Although that game was fun to watch (I didn't play it ) half your time was spent waiting for it to load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestilent Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 It's not by any means the speediest thing on the planet. Games on regular CD as oppossed to DVD format seem to be even worse. Try playing Rune sometime (rent or borrow, don't buy Rune) My God it makes the old neo CD system look like some US defense super computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbid Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 the xbox has some horrid loading times too i personally hate my PS2, but im currently addicted to REZ, if you can snag a copy, i highly recommend it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 After almost a year of Gamecube fun, I've decided to see what the rest of the world plays and have bought a PS2.Now I'm very happy with my purchase (DTS on a console - wow!) and my (only:) ) game GTA:Vice City is brilliant. One thing I wanted to ask, though. Is it just GTA:VC or do all PS2 games take as long to load as a Commodore 64?! It was like playing on dialup! The GC and DC don't take anything like this long. Are there any games that have good loading times or is it part of the whole PS2 'zen' design to make us learn patience? The load times on a game depend on how the filesystem programmer lays out the data on the disc. For instance, to reduce load times we stuffed entire levels into a single file (textures, models etc.). The worst case scenario is that hundreds and hundreds of files that are scattered all of the disc need to be loaded per level (can you say seek times ?). I think the two prime examples of bad loading times are Crash Bandicoot and the first Madden (for gods sake you have to wait for the loading screen ). To answer your question, you can get a good data transfer rate from the DVD drive if you layout the data properly. The same goes for GC and XBOX. Hope that helps ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 To answer your question, you can get a good data transfer rate from the DVD drive if you layout the data properly. Indeed. Jak & Daxter is a perfect example. Very rarely do you notice loading times if you're wandering around - it streams the data in almost seamlessly. I was highly impressed. As for Vice City, I find the load times on it quite manageable. In fact for the quality of most PS2 games I can't complain - Commodore 64 games took three times as long to load and for what - Kikstart II? Don't get me wrong it's a great game but just doesn't hold a candle to ATV Offroad Fury II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Cleopatra Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 the xbox has some horrid loading times too i personally hate my PS2, but im currently addicted to REZ, if you can snag a copy, i highly recommend it What exactly is REZ about? I've seen it in the stores and can't quite figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 It's quite trippy, this article sums it up fairly well. http://www.game-revolution.com/games/ps2/a.../action/rez.htm I was first released on the DC on which you can play the game with the mouse (totally different experience) but if you find it for the DC, you will pay an arm and a leg for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Cleopatra Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 Thanks CPU I still don't think I understand so maybe I will see if I can rent it to check it out. I loved Space Channel 5 on the DC "left, right, left, right, shoot-shoot-shoot!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisbid Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 REZ plays like Panzer Dragoon. But its a real trip to play the game through a loud stereo and with the lights turned off. Its also a little hard to find on the PS2 now, since its out of print Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 If you're the lucky owner of the Japanese PS2 version, it's even more bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxy Cleopatra Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 REZ plays like Panzer Dragoon. But its a real trip to play the game through a loud stereo and with the lights turned off. Its also a little hard to find on the PS2 now, since its out of print I have seen it used and it's still like $50 for some reason I though it was new since it was still that much Might be more difficult than I thought to check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 I know the Director Of Marketing at Sega and he told me only 50000 copies were made, that might be the reason why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjessop Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 The load times on a game depend on how the filesystem programmer lays out the data on the disc. For instance, to reduce load times we stuffed entire levels into a single file (textures, models etc.). The worst case scenario is that hundreds and hundreds of files that are scattered all of the disc need to be loaded per level (can you say seek times ?). I think the two prime examples of bad loading times are Crash Bandicoot and the first Madden (for gods sake you have to wait for the loading screen ). To answer your question, you can get a good data transfer rate from the DVD drive if you layout the data properly. The same goes for GC and XBOX. Hope that helps ... Maybe you can give a talk on this at the PS2 DevCon coming up The trend with PS2 publishers is to rush unfinished, unoptimized games out the door to make an unrealistic ship date. It's especially bad on PS2 as it's the dominent sales leader so it's titles must get out first. I'm preaching to the wrong person...... jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liveinabin Posted January 27, 2003 Author Share Posted January 27, 2003 yeah, Rez is good - I played it on the DC. After a couple of days with GTA:VC, I can't really begrudge the enormous load time at the start as that city is HUGE! Not only that but have you seen how big the playlist is for the radio stations, funny, but I didn't imagine THIS would be the game where Kate Bush makes her game soundtrack debut:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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