Gunstar Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Good points from both of you, but this is an blatantly obvious mistake that has to do with Forbidden Planet itself, not about shadows and shading. I won't keep people guessing though. The Forbidden Planet had a atmosphere that refracted light into the green spectrum, not the blue. Like the first Forbidden Planet image I did months ago. Where's the green sky??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Is it a palette problem? Colour 10 can be an annoyance. Some palettes/conversions assume it is green, some assume it's bluish green, some assume it's green. In PAL land, it's very much green but I believe in NTSC it's more biased towards blue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) Not in this case, the orignal artist just screwed up and painted a blue sky instead of green. This image uses colors very close to the original art. Edited September 7, 2017 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a8isa1 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Good points from both of you, but this is an blatantly obvious mistake that has to do with Forbidden Planet itself, not about shadows and shading. I won't keep people guessing though. The Forbidden Planet had a atmosphere that refracted light into the green spectrum, not the blue. Like the first Forbidden Planet image I did months ago. Where's the green sky??? I never thought the sky was green. It always looked grey/cyan to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 (edited) I never thought the sky was green. It always looked grey/cyan to me. Maybe you've seen an old version that hasn't been remastered, with poor color or something, it of course fades at the horizon (color) so maybe there were scenes that it didn't look so green or what ever,maybe not, it's been a couple years since I've seen it myself. But none the less, it is even specifically mentioned by members of the crew when they first land and are setting up camp. And they show the sky in the movie at that point and it looks green to me. The author took the time to actually write the sky as green (ish) though, so any paintings true to the story should have the a green (ish) sky for the planet Altair IV. I was looking at some movie images and it's sort of a green-blue-greyish color, but at least one one of the characters in the movie refer to it as 'green." And I would call it, in colloquial English, "green" myself, judging by the color in the movie and the movie screen-shots I've just looked at to refresh my memory. Edited September 7, 2017 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a8isa1 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Maybe you've seen an old version that hasn't been remastered, with poor color or something, it of course fades at the horizon (color) so maybe there were scenes that it didn't look so green or what ever, it's been a couple years since I've seen it myself. But none the less, it is even specifically mentioned by members of the crew when they first land and are setting up camp. And they show the sky in the movie at that point and it looks green to me. The author took the time to actually write the sky as green though. I believe it goes something like this, "look at that sky!", "...yes, but I'll still take blue", "I don't know. I could get used to this." Best I can do at quoting. All I have is a very early released DVD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwilove Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 A backlog of pics - etc... Harvey C-Angels-02X.xexCherylLadd-09.xexCleopatra-ET.xexDlair-04.xexDrSmith-Robot2.xexFarrah-16S.xexForbiddenPlanet-04.xexMilfordSound-Fiordland.xexNZ-Win28-Mpeak.xex Moeraki-01.xexMoerakiBoulders.xexMoerakiBoulders-2P.xexPath-2-TunnelBeach-2.xexTesla-01.xex Tesla-pic.xexYellowEyedPenguin2.xex 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Things That Don't Work Well in RastaConverter: Flesh tones, skies, gradients Things You've Mostly Tried to Do: ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwilove Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 I do agree that that batch of pics done - are not in the category of the best examples - but are passable. That the program was able to produce results that are of acceptable? quality from such source material is a testimony of how good RasterConverter is - at having a go at it... Harvey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Love the Lost in Space pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Sherman Tanks. 42 colors. Dithered, 57 colors. ShermanTanks3.xex ShermanTanksD.xex 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a8isa1 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Sherman Tanks. 42 colors. Dithered, 57 colors. hmm. Left better image. Right better colors. Hard to decide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Exactly why I posted both. As you know, I rarely post dithered pictures because most of the time I feel they are not as good, But I always try dithered, if I'm not 100% satisfied with non-dithered, because every once in a while a picture may be comparable or better with dithering. There are a few dithered pictures I've posted, some you can hardly tell, because I had dithering on very light amounts, but it sometimes helps to bring out colors that non-dither just won't pick up on. Edited September 11, 2017 by Gunstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CharlieChaplin Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) hmm. Left better image. Right better colors. Hard to decide. playing with words: decide for german tanks instead Edited September 11, 2017 by CharlieChaplin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Knight Templar. 23 colors. KnightTemplar1.xex 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) Templar leading the charge. 28 colors. Dithered 32 colors. The lines at the bottom are not an error, they are small text on the original image. I just decided not to care instead of cropping. TemplarLeadingcharge.xex TemplarLeadingCharge1db.xex Edited September 24, 2017 by Gunstar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Same as Above. NTSC 26 colors. NTSC dithered 30 colors. TemplarleadingChargeNTSC.xex TemplarLeadingChargeDNTSC.xex 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Been a while since I did a conversion. I did the editing & pre-processing in Photoshop. Cropped and centered the image, made it 320X240, removed some of the "fly away" hair which I knew would not convert well. I then converted the image to indexed 8-bit and applied 75% diffusion. I turned up the saturation 60%. When running RastaConvertor, I left option standard and just used YUV colourspace. Rasta crashed so I didn't get to see the # of evaluations. The distance was about 10.5. scarlette.xex 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I think that one is damn good considering Rasta doesn't like skin tones. Everyone has trouble with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) Andromeda. 41 colors. Enterprise. 34 colors. Nebulon Frigate. 57 colors. Eagle Transporter. 33 colors. EDIT: I just deleted and reposted another version of Enterprise as the dreaded "line error" showed up on the first one posted when I was enjoying it on my real Atari. This one below is about 10 million evaluations sooner, hardly any changes anyway. Andromeda1.xex NebulonFrigate3.xex EagleTransporter1b.xex Enterprise4a.xex Edited October 4, 2017 by Gunstar 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Wow! Can't decide if I like Andromeda or Enterprise better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Wow! Can't decide if I like Andromeda or Enterprise better. What? No love for space ships unless they are fleet flagships? I seem to remember the Enterprise being called a garbage scow once... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 What? No love for space ships unless they are fleet flagships? I seem to remember the Enterprise being called a garbage scow once... Well, haha, I meant the image conversions. I'm kind of a Millennium Falcon guy anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelmischief Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) Rybags is right. This conversion looks OK in just 120 million evaluations but without the ability to portray the eyes the story of the picture is missing. wolves.jpg.jpg wolves_screenshot.png Is the final image untouchable? You may be making the logical case for post-processing touch-up. Given the image after processing, a quick edit that reinstates the eyes could win back that "spark". Edited October 5, 2017 by pixelmischief 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Well, haha, I meant the image conversions. I'm kind of a Millennium Falcon guy anyhow. Did this a few years ago on G2F, can't remember now if I posted it or not. I did a Star Trek one too, but can't find it now. Rastaconverter kind of killed off my enthusiasm for doing these pics! Falcon.xex 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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