Frankie Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I have a socketed 800xl. I would try myself but moving the components on the main board to get the height needed is beyond me. Frank, St. Augustine, FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 According to Sloopy, if the right-angle header on the XL Antic adapter is mounted high enough, the VBXE clears the adjacent chips. I can make a suitable adapter up if you like (it would mean there'd be no need to move those components), but I'll have to test if the theory is correct first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted December 30, 2012 Author Share Posted December 30, 2012 According to Sloopy, if the right-angle header on the XL Antic adapter is mounted high enough, the VBXE clears the adjacent chips. I can make a suitable adapter up if you like (it would mean there'd be no need to move those components), but I'll have to test if the theory is correct first. That worked! I just put another socket under it. I finished the install. How can I run it through it's paces to see if I have it correct? I'm using an RGB upscaler to give me a (us) standard VGA output. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Z Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 That worked! I just put another socket under it. I finished the install. How can I run it through it's paces to see if I have it correct? I'm using an RGB upscaler to give me a (us) standard VGA output. Frank on candles website there is a disk image that contains various test programs. one of them is a color bar generator (RGB and white IIRC), there is an 80 column demo, and there are various non-demo programs that make use of the VBXE, but I don't know them. http://spiflash.org/files/vbxe/release-examples.zip <-- there is a 16MB atr in there I think with various examples for the VBXE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted December 30, 2012 Author Share Posted December 30, 2012 on candles website there is a disk image that contains various test programs. one of them is a color bar generator (RGB and white IIRC), there is an 80 column demo, and there are various non-demo programs that make use of the VBXE, but I don't know them. http://spiflash.org/...se-examples.zip <-- there is a 16MB atr in there I think with various examples for the VBXE. Wow! These are amazing! Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Check the EXTSEL connection (IIRC - going by memory here). I had the same error and the jumper was broken, as it turned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Z Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 also, what core DO you have installed? you need one of the extended cores to do anything outside of GTIA emulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Z Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Wow! These are amazing! Frank ^well I guess you fixed it. didn't notice that edit until now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 I had the j3? connector upside down and picked up pin 5 instead of 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I can't see how you could put a second socket in and not get clearance issues with the keyboard - suppose it might vary due to the different types around. Also, VBXE simply doesn't plug and hold in one of the cheap standard sockets. Re clearance of board mounted components, the only thing I changed was the capacitor that's up/left from the Antic socket, I put another in with more leg showing and just bent it over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 It just touches the top of the keyboard. Closes without any problem. My board already had precision sockets put in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Could take some pictures? I still have a vbxe waiting to be installed. it has a xe adapter, but now I would like to install it into a 800xl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 It just touches the top of the keyboard. Closes without any problem. My board already had precision sockets put in. What I was actually talking about was making a special Antic adapter board with the right-angle header soldered as high up as possible. Sloopy said this might allow the VBXE to clear the surrounding ICs without the need for an extra socket. I asked Candle for some spare adapter boards so I could do this on my 1200XL, although in this case an extra socket is still required for adequate clearance, and yet a third socket so that the VBXE clears the PAL GTIA adapter board. It all works, although replacing the machine socket under Antic is highly recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Louis, can't do without major rework, to the XE it goes i'm affride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santosp Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) Could take some pictures? I still have a vbxe waiting to be installed. it has a xe adapter, but now I would like to install it into a 800xl. I have done the same in mine board who is still sitting to the drawer of my desk! Of course with the help of Sebastian who sent me some adapters. Louis, your board is 2 days long from here if you sent it as a registered irregular letter. When you decide it, I have the proper equipment to convert it into XL compatible. Edited December 31, 2012 by santosp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 Here are some picture attempts - (hopefully not too big) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 Apparently something isn't quite right with my VBXE install. I have vertical banding. If I switch back to s-video the screen is perfect. Does anyone have any ideas? I'm using a DB9 connector and up-scaling to VGA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Did you do the obvious? By running down the wires? And I'm curious, how did you mount the DB9. And moreover, what is that blackbox doing on top of the modulator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santosp Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Did you do the obvious? By running down the wires? And I'm curious, how did you mount the DB9. And moreover, what is that blackbox doing on top of the modulator? I can answer only about the black....box! Actually the SDrive unit. http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/192131-sdrive-micro-for-8-bit-atari/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Uhm, must have missed that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 get a ground for DB9 socket directly from VBXE video out header, nowhere else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 get a ground for DB9 socket directly from VBXE video out header, nowhere else get a ground for DB9 socket directly from VBXE video out header, nowhere else Pin 1 of the DB9 is connected to pin one of J4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 Did you do the obvious? By running down the wires? And I'm curious, how did you mount the DB9. And moreover, what is that blackbox doing on top of the modulator? All the wires seem solid. Rangling them around doesn't effect the video output. The DB9 is mounted with hot-glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 This is through the upscale unit? Looks like a slight dip in video signal on some cycle boundaries that a 16 KHz monitor won't normally pick up. Can you try on a 16 KHz monitor such as 1084? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 I don't have any monitor like that. I'll see what eBay has to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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