carmel_andrews Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 ....About the Amiga Shame that both Atari and Later commodore essentially ballsed everything up....Atari for turning down Jay's original proposal back in 1979, Commodore for basically doing a cack job at positioning the Amiga properly as well as slowly absorbing what was Commodore Amiga Inc into commodore's existing coroporate structure and the same went for the Amiga technology (basically, commodore buying out Amiga for the very same reason's tramiel wanted amiga for, i.e. the technology and not the company...Only difference was commodore went about it backhanded like) amiga.doc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastRobPlus Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Pretty cool. Reading this makes you sad that he died a bit after and never got a chance to move technology forward like this again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awhite2600 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I was fortunate enough to meet Jay Miner at one of the AmiExpo shows in Chicago in the early 1990's. He was an absolute gentleman. I got his autograph on the manual for a Hypercard-like product for the Amiga. It's a shame that he passed away a short time later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiman99 Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Interesting article, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 Only thing about the article is that they spelt larry's name wrong (it's kaplan not caplin) and also it seems that Jay gives a different perspective of the founding of hi-toro from the one that Larry gives (larry mentions that it was he that found the florida doctors to invest in a games company, Jay seems to say otherwise) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 It is somewhat sad though that a good number of 'amiga sites' seem to want to erase or airbrush Joe Decuir out of amiga history (since he was one of the first 'hires' by Jay, apparently employee no.3) and principle designer of the Agnus Chip It's somewhat like say, A8 or VCS users/owners saying that Joe had nothing to do with the A8 or VCS Perhaps amiga sites and users are somewhat more disrespectful or disingenous to someone that actually made a contribution to the original amiga design Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desiv Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Perhaps amiga sites and users are somewhat more disrespectful or disingenous to someone that actually made a contribution to the original amiga design Doubtful.. Much more likely they just don't know. And information, bad or good, has a tendency to perpetuate thru the Internet. So one site places information with Joe, and others follow suit. The Internet is the greatest collection of information ever. It's just not necessarily accurate information. desiv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accousticguitar Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I wonder if the business is fun book mentions how the engineers were cheated out of their bonuses. I'd never heard about that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Reading this makes me wanna have a OMGWTFBBQ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 I wonder if the business is fun book mentions how the engineers were cheated out of their bonuses. I'd never heard about that before. They were exactly 'cheated', warners were doing what the business world calls 'creative accounting' by basically writing off all development costs associated/attributed with the A8 (which ofcourse meant additional payments to employees) and the engineers took that as meaning they (atari) were reneging on promises or guarantees made Atari came off the worst though, so in effect a company trying to 'hide losses' like warners atari division did came back to haunt them big time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalH Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) For those who, for whatever reason, can't or won't use Word files, I have extracted the images and built a PDF from them, attached here. File size is approximately 300 bytes smaller as a PDF, lol. Jay Miner AUI Interview - June 1988.pdf Edited March 8, 2013 by LocalH 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammy Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Thank you, LocalH, that's very considerate of you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innovative Leisure Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Perhaps amiga sites and users are somewhat more disrespectful or disingenous to someone that actually made a contribution to the original amiga design I don't think there were ever a significant amount of Amiga fans wanting to downplay Joe Decuir's involvement or write him out of the company's history. If that were the case, RJ Mical would have probably already badmouthed him in his stand-up routines by now. Both Joe and Larry Kaplan ended up returning to Atari in 1983. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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