candle Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 It's not big secret i guess Fiberwire has 400 and 800 schematics as he has original service manual, yet he needs time to get them scanned or photographed, so i wait, patiently.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 http://www.digitpress.com/library/techdocs/Atari_400-800_Service_Manual.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 we do have a google here in Poland Mike, thank you no be so kind, and go to page 39 and figure something out, can you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 What a waste. They scan the whole document but you can't read half of it. What's the point? Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uunek Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Next one board for me. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I'm not sure if this can help at all, but it is all I have. 400.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 thanks Stephen, these are Jer's schematics, unfortunatly, with bugs i've asked him if he could correct them, will call him tomorrow and see if he found the time to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailChao Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I'll take one board, please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St(r)yker Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 07.02.2013 - http://dereatari.republika.pl/atarisch/400.zip 28.03.2013 - http://www.dereatari.republika.pl/literat/400_800sm.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 Thanks So far there are 23 boards reserved, need 7 more for MOQ on PCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elementCXV Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Put me down for two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumzyman Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Add 2 more to my order so 4 total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool84 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Sent you a mail for 2, but I'll take 3 please to make your 30 goal. Oldschool84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted April 8, 2013 Author Share Posted April 8, 2013 that desperate? there is no hurry, and no need to take more than actually need, perhaps there will be more takers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool84 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Agreed. 1 for gaming, 1 for BBS/Other and 1 spare. Didn't take long to reach 30. I'm sure others will want 1 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragooman Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) --EDIT-- oh crap, did I miss the deadline already ??? --EDIT-- Candle, I also like to order one for my A800. I can send payment when you give the word. thanks ! Dan Edited April 9, 2013 by Ragooman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sm3 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I hate to do this, but I'm going to have to withdraw my request for 2 boards. After my recent experience installing the Ultimate 1MB, I think I better just stick to soldering/desoldering IC's. Soldering extra wires to pins is definitely not one of my strengths. Update: I've been convinced by others to give it a try (post #46). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+skr Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I hate to do this, but I'm going to have to withdraw my request for 2 boards. After my recent experience installing the Ultimate 1MB, I think I better just stick to soldering/desoldering IC's. Soldering extra wires to pins is definitely not one of my strengths. I've installed a U1MB too and in my opinion the Incognito is much easier from the soldering side, as the soldering points are HUGE, honestly. As long as you are able to identify them (which is quite easy with the pictures in the installation instructions) it shouldn't be a problem. And in case of doubt, wouldn't you find a skilled friend who could help you? You really miss a great extension. OT: Yesterday I tried Panos OSS 5in1 cartridge with my Incognito 800. Works great. The cartridge is somewhat tight in the slot but at least it fits without use of rough force. Switching between SDX and MAC/65 without losing memory content (of course I have 1MB activated) and saving to any APT partition of the CF card, all that works like a charme. The only disadvantage is, that the cartridge is so high, that I can't close the 800's lid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 Ragooman: this is open for at least 30 boards, so do not worry about deadlines too much sm3: your choice, can't say i can uderstand why 4 wires were so hard to solder compared to 28pin ic removal, but hey - it's not my problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 And in case of doubt, wouldn't you find a skilled friend who could help you? +1 to this. If soldering is difficult, better to send the unit off to someone who can do the job than attempt it yourself and then call in a rescue team... If one feels one can't solder period, it makes no difference whether there are four wires or four hundred. I remember destroying the pads on an XT motherboard trying to replace the soldered-in CMOS battery some twenty years ago (long before I learned to solder), in the belief that "it's only two contacts, so how hard can it be?". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sm3 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Yeah, I seem to be able to solder pins on IC's pretty well. My issue with the Ultimate 1mb was with soldering wires to the pins on the CPU. There must be some trick to it. I eventually cheated and used jumper wires with clips. I've been convinced though to give the Incognito a try. I will keep my original request for 2 please. The main PCB of an Atari 800 is cheap enough I could get another if I make too many mistakes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 trick is you have to put freshs solder onto pin first, then on the bare wire end, and then heat them up together so they would melt if you try to solder to dry pin - you won't - there is 20 years of oxidation deposite on it, and it won't stick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sm3 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Thanks for the tip candle, I may give it another shot and try to install it properly. I was confident installing the Ultimate 1 mb until I got to that part, then it slapped me down a few notches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+skr Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Thanks for the tip candle, I may give it another shot and try to install it properly. I was confident installing the Ultimate 1 mb until I got to that part, then it slapped me down a few notches Try to find some old electronics from the trash that is already destroyed and useless. Use this to exercise soldering. That's really helpful, when you know, you can't destroy anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari8warez Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) It makes no difference whether there are four wires or four hundred. You must be kidding, right . That's 10 times more soldering, even the experienced solderers aren't prone to mistakes as I've seen it with my own eyes before.... Edited April 12, 2013 by atari8warez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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