Andromeda Stardust Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Hi. I have been building arcade boxes using Arcade replacement parts, for my own personal enjoyment. Have a look: NES, Atari http://www.flickr.com/photos/30203515@N04/sets/72157629736738048/ SNES http://www.flickr.com/photos/30203515@N04/sets/72157634800361528/ My next project will be a 4-in-1 Genesis/Atari/SNES/NES controller with alternate SNES button layouts for RPGs/Fighters and 3-button platformers (SMW, DKC, etc...). It will feature dual ports for Genesis and SNES. The Genesis will be backwards compatible with Atari 2600 and SMS by default. Backwards compatibility with NES will be supplied by a patched extension cable (SNES and NES use the same protocol, different plugs). Back to my original topic: I already have plans drawn up for a 5th controller box: N64! The N64 arcade box will use a clone controller since the official controllers used a mouse style optical rotary wheel. Most N64 clone controllers as well as every dual stick console controller I've seen use pots. Problem is finding a suitable analog joystick that uses pots and isn't in the $100+ range. I've done some exhaustive Google searches and the cheapest joystick available is $162! http://na.suzohapp.com/all_catalogs/joysticks/50-2876-00 But I could buy 10x competition joysticks for that price! I did find some cheaper solutions but most "analog" joysticks, for instance the Ultimarc UltraStik, use a Hal effect sensor and a dedicated onboard microcontroller to translate the signals to USB HID for MAME use. That's fine and dandy for emulation but useless for console use, since it's impossible or extremely difficult to convert this signal to a usable voltage divider the way a pot does. http://www.ultimarc.com/ultrastik_info.html Seimitsu used to sell an LS-64 analog arcade joystick for $80 which was suitable for pad hacks, but sadly, it has been discontinued. The product apparently has been completely removed from the site. Other solutions I have found online seem geared towards mobility or industrial applications, but I'm wondering if some of these solutions are too stiff or slow. Most I've seen have ugly rubber grommets on them. Just because a particular joystick might be suitable for operating a power wheelchair or a forklift doesn't necessarily mean it will be suitable for twitch precision gaming. Many of them aren't even available to inidivual DIYers as half the sites seem only to cater to industrial customers. Adafruit and several other companies sell nice thumb nubs for cheap (can be found elsewhere cheaper than Adafruit), but the point is to build a real arcade box/panel, not a homebrew gamepad: http://www.adafruit.com/products/245 https://www.adafruit.com/products/512 Adding extensions to a thumbstick would likely result in a joystick that flops around under it's own weight and would probably break extremely easily due to the force applied to it. Then there are a couple niche products designed for people with disabilities that prevent them from holding a controller: http://www.oneswitch.org.uk/1/AGS/AGS-large/quasicon.htm The analog nubs are tiny compared to a full arcade joystick, but it appears they would work well. Sadly, none of these companies seem to be selling the parts individually for DIYers. Furthermore I have no idea how sturdy or durable those pea shooters are but they are certainly better than thumbsticks. Either way I would love to get a source for these. Another option I have found some enterprising DIYers hacked old PC Gameport flight sticks into their arcade panels. That is a distinct possibility albeit clunky but again I am concerned with the durability of the setup. Even so, I could go look at the electronics bin of a discount shop or used game store, but it may not even be possible to tell if a stick is analog or digital just by looking at it. Many PC sticks were purely digital even if they interfaced with an analog 15-pin gameport so it's hard to tell. It seems that there would be a market for DIY analog joysticks, but the vast majority of existing solutions, DIY or prefabricated, are all digital. Even most "fighter sticks" for modern systems are digital only and may not work properly for genres like FPS or 3D platforming. I would absolutely love to play Mario 64 or Mario Kart with a real joystick. Don't forget anyone whose a 5200 fan could really use something better than the failure prone stock joysticks that came with the system. If anyone knows of a cheap but good (and still in production) full scale analog joystick/flightstick with pots or have their own solutions, please let me know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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