Rybags Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Doesn't matter... we work these things out 10 minutes after the release anyway. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMR Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I am not a fan of having this kind of "secret" about the mode used.... We are in 2014 where fandal, tebe, xxl, etc release stuff and talk open about it... Or even release source code... (Reminds me Arsantica sources to publish). Agreed, i can understand someone playing the cards close to their chest before release but Rybags is right and after release it probably won't take much more than ten minutes to reverse engineer the code. It's better to just document what's going on in a blog post when the game goes out or something, that way you're not just giving the community a game but offering up a cool technique for the coders to play with as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I just think it's going to look awesome ... especially if it doesn't flicker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 And another bonus with sharing the gfx mode or code would be to get the experiences of us to avoid some issues right at the beginning not talking here down the ideas but could help improve... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I'm trying to decide if '80s developer NDA mentality is cute or antagonistic. You'll make more money at McDonald's than you will trying to copy protect Atari games. Anyway, hope the game is good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popmilo Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Doesn't matter... we work these things out 10 minutes after the release anyway.Yeah... Chances that we'll see something we haven't seen til now are slim... Ultra slim I bet they are keeping a lid on it just because they want to provide us with a nice surprise, and show that they made real effort and produced something new. @Bryan: I'm deciding 'Cute' ... For now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Common guys Do you also ask for your Christmas and birthday presents to be given as soon as they are bought? And without the raping? Let's wait until Pete and his crew are ready to release it. The fun is not only in the getting, but also in the waiting until you get something. Sincerely Mathy (who loves a good surprise) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Westphal Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Keep everything secret for all care. I just want a killer game on cart, with a nice label. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMR Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Common guys Do you also ask for your Christmas and birthday presents to be given as soon as they are bought? And without the raping? Note to self: avoid Mathy's Christmas/birthday parties...! 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Note to self: avoid Mathy's Christmas/birthday parties...! I didn't have the heart to reply 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Note to self: avoid Mathy's Christmas/birthday parties...! You only forget to ask for no raping once. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snicklin Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I am willing to wait but am not ready to rape, it is too new to me and not in my nature. I hope that is OK with all other Atarians. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Hello guys Oops, I usually check of any errors in what I write, this one slipped by me. That should have read "wrapping" of course, not "raping". Sincerely Mathy 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMR Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Oops, I usually check of any errors in what I write, this one slipped by me. That should have read "wrapping" of course, not "raping". Don't worry, i think we all know what you meant... but some of us [rolls eyes] just have a very childish sense of humou... oh hang on, that was me wasn't it? =-) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRV Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Yeah... Chances that we'll see something we haven't seen til now are slim... Ultra slim I bet they are keeping a lid on it just because they want to provide us with a nice surprise, and show that they made real effort and produced something new. @Bryan: I'm deciding 'Cute' ... For now "For now.." x) I only can say that if is blending colors is going to flicker "a lot".. If Apac, I don't see the scanlines (but the "screenshots" look a little dark, so I suppose is one of these two).. Color changes inside the scanline are good mostly for title screens, so .. what else is out there? You only forget to ask for no raping once. How do you know? x) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 APAC does not let free many CPU cycles esp for soft sprites... So must be flickering then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popmilo Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Borring time at work... Can't stop wasting time thinking about how its done Based on this quote from Pete: "ANTIC and GTIA will be working hard at VBL video updates and colour mixing. There is no comparison to the games you mentioned with Centron 3D. So the 6502 will be doing other calculations and not worrying about video updates. This is what ATARI designed ANTIC for, to take the video pressure off the 6502 but you probably already know this." That should mean dlist, dli and vbl colors and modes changes. Let see what type of crazy mix they came up with 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Nobody wondering so far why he posted a screenshot without the frame of the used emulator? Or is this usual today? Better would be a short movie including the loading and then showing the screenshot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Common guys Do you also ask for your Christmas and birthday presents to be given as soon as they are bought? And without the raping? Mathy (who loves a good surprise) I'd say raping is a pretty big surprise.. Edited May 26, 2014 by Mclaneinc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Don't worry, i think we all know what you meant... but some of us [rolls eyes] just have a very childish sense of humou... oh hang on, that was me wasn't it? =-) Sorry, was at my level as well.....Good lord, you at my level, poor bloke..My excuse is I'm a loon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpc_games Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 Hi Guys @ProWizard: I'll upload a short vid of the screens we've completed on YouTube tomorrow and will let you know. Pete 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snicklin Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I'm looking forward to it! I just saw your other title screen picture and it looks great. You will have other people potentially use your CMODE after they've backwards engineered it. With modern debuggers that probably won't take long. You may find that other people find some quite inventive ways of using the mode, maybe not necessarily for 3D things. Perhaps it could be used for a 2D puzzle game of some kind? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariNerd Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 ...or the inevitable PLASMA demos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 for plasmas I tend to use APAC or gr.15 with DLIs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Hello TMR Don't worry, i think we all know what you meant... but some of us [rolls eyes] just have a very childish sense of humou... oh hang on, that was me wasn't it? =-) I guess we have the same kind of humor. Sincerely Mathy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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