Omega-TI Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 For every problem there can be multiple solutions, some more complicated and expensive than others. This holds true when it comes to transferring files from the PC to the TI. There is the HDX method, as well as the HxC method, but not everyone has these devices, so that leaves the direct transfer method, and it's this last one I'd like to talk about. The direct file transfer method requires a special cabling arrangement between the PC and the TI, this is also the case with the HDX method. But WHAT IF you no longer needed any new or special cabling on the PC side? The UDS-10 could be used by hooking the TI directly to the router, so no extra USB adapters and cables to the PC would be required. This would be a lower cost solution for newbies or returning users to get stuff into their TI's while they are building up their systems. Now there is a hitch at this point... like many things TI, it just needs the program(s) to function over their local in-home network. At which point a simple start up kit could be offered here on the board or on Ebay. ** EDIT ** Oh yeah, and once the have the UDS-10 they could also download TI stuff from Heatwave BBS too! Possibly a future use for a future version of Stuart's browser too! You never know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 I guess another idea crashes & burns....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 That just requires more software skills than I have, Ohm. . .and those who do have sufficient skills to do that are already tied up on other projects of their own right now. Just because there isn't an immediate response does not mean an idea has crashed and burned--it is more appropriate to say that its time is yet to come. . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwantgames:) Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 This UDS intrigues me tho, getting on internet would be a cool thing might have to pick one up soon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Actually, thinking on this some--you would just have to put some BBS software on the PC side to allow the UDS-10 to have an endpoint to connect to. . .you might not have to write any new software at all--you'd just have to have instructions on how to set it up. That is something that you could do Ohm, as you are good at sussing out the ins and outs of existing packages to get them to work the way you want them to. Then you just have to identify the software to use at both ends and write a step-by-step manual for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 That just requires more software skills than I have, Ohm. . .and those who do have sufficient skills to do that are already tied up on other projects of their own right now. Just because there isn't an immediate response does not mean an idea has crashed and burned--it is more appropriate to say that its time is yet to come. . . Yeah, I know you and the others have projects, as well as lives. I do have to tell you though, I'm grateful that you guys do have projects in the works, the anticipation and expectation is all part of the fun and excitement. Sometimes I just like to throw ideas up against the wall to see what sticks. I probably do that too often though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 See my previous comment--this may be one that you can do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 Actually, thinking on this some--you would just have to put some BBS software on the PC side to allow the UDS-10 to have an endpoint to connect to. . .you might not have to write any new software at all--you'd just have to have instructions on how to set it up. That is something that you could do Ohm, as you are good at sussing out the ins and outs of existing packages to get them to work the way you want them to. Then you just have to identify the software to use at both ends and write a step-by-step manual for it. Yeah, a Telnet capable stripped-down BBS package WOULD work! There are speed issues with regular communications programs on the TI-side, like Telco I was hoping to avoid, but then again most TI files are so small it would not really be that big of an issue. I think you have a GREAT solution there! A pre-configured package in a folder someone could slip on the PC would be cool. Hell, yeah, I'd make the docs for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Back in the day I had a simple program on my Amiga which would answer the phone and accept login credentials. Then I could start a zmodem receive program (rz) which used the current stdin (console) as the input. I used this to send stuff from my friend's Windows machine on the other side of town (CD rips, mostly, since my Amiga at the time did not have a CD-ROM.) We did the same thing with our SLIP dial-ups to the school lab computer but with Kermit. Zmodem has been implemented in 6502 (Novaterm and C-Net BBS,) as well as Ymodem (Punter, C-Net, and Color64 BBS, as well as Novaterm,) I cannot see any reason why either cannot be implemented on the TI. But Xmodem would probably do just fine. Windows has a telnet server. There is a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 Yeah, this turned out to too damn easy to even warrant an instruction manual. I just downloaded a 30 day trial of HyperTerminal. All you need to do is connect to the Lantronix using port 10001, start the SEND transfer on the PC side and RECEIVE transfer on the TI side. What we NEED is a FREE program with no expiration date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OLD CS1 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Give this a shot. http://www.extraputty.com/index.php 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 Give this a shot. http://www.extraputty.com/index.php Damn, you've been holding out on me! I did not know this program was out there. Have you installed it yet? Any problems? I got a security warning when I attempted to install it. But if it works okay for you, I'd much rather run this and remove the HyperTerminal trial program from my system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkeey Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Can you just host a bbs on your network, and host files off of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 Can you just host a bbs on your network, and host files off of it? As an ongoing thing, that's not really simple or practical for a newbie. I use other methods myself, I was just thinking of an inexpensive and easy method for newbies or returning TI'ers to get stuff onto their TI's. If they're on Atari Age, most if not all of them already have a home router and internet access. So, without having to mess with additional connections to their PC's, a simple TI/UDS-10/Router arrangement would work quite well at first and give them some extra capabilities like calling a BBS too. This method still has the Catch-22 of requiring an initial program on the TI, which the HxC gets around. But I guess it's better than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firepod Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I Use putty, but never ExtraPutty, will have to give this a try, thanks for the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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