Thomas Jentzsch Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Is it only me, or has editing really become very slow again? I have to wait up to 90 sec until it reacts. Maybe this link can help: http://www.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=294205 This Nuttzy99 seems to have massively improved his perfomance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Strange. yesterday I have use no Proxy for this site, and it has work great with the new Posts. But today it work not again. I can't use no Proxy, because then the site is not working. And if I use Proxy, I can't see the new posts. Now I have think it work again since yesterday, and now again it don't work. But when I use a Proxy it work, and its fast. Not slow by me. But I can't see the new posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Err...you mean that it's not supposed to be that slow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbrad Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 90 seconds. yep. I edit, then submit, and then I rest my eyes for awhile.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Yeah, this software is evil and the database is getting quite large since we haven't been purging old messages. Since the server isn't getting any faster, as the database gets larger it takes longer and longer to edit messages. This was a big problem before we switched servers over the summer, and there are probably only two ways to make editing messages faster again: 1) Prune a large chunk of old messages 2) Move AtariAge to a faster server Choice #1 is the easiest and cheapest, but I would prefer to avoid doing that as possible, as it's quite nice being able to search through all the messages since AtariAge has gone online (about two years now!) Moving the server to a faster machine is a possibility, but it's not going to happen in the immediate future. So for the short term the problem will probably remain, unless I can find a solution on the phpbb forums (unlikely). ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted April 2, 2003 Author Share Posted April 2, 2003 So the suggestions I linked to do not help? Shit! How about splitting the DB into two parts? Everything older than e.g. 1 year get's archived into a (non-editable) backup DB, which cannot be browsed but still be searched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Oh well...I guess we all just have to mind our P's and Q's so we won't need to edit later I imagine that if you killed off old messages, there would be a lot of belly-aching about post counts again (no names) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybergoth Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Hi Albert! 1) Prune a large chunk of old messages 30% of the messages reside in the Off Topic board, most of which is probably not really worth to be archived forever... Greetings, Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Yep...the same could be said about anything not responded to in over a year. Some sooner than that (like the marketplace and ebay threads long since over and done with). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybergoth Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Hi there! Yep...the same could be said about anything not responded to in over a year. Some sooner than that (like the marketplace and ebay threads long since over and done with). While agreeing with the marketplace and ebay threads, I think one should probably handpick the threads in most other boards. Really important and valuable information from the "Programming" or all the "Systems" boards might get lost otherwize. Maybe the moderators should try to keep their boards clean and carefully remove useless threads older than a year or so? Greetings, Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted April 2, 2003 Author Share Posted April 2, 2003 I am still not convince that this problem can not be solved with some patches to the software. If you follow the link I posted above, it all sounds very logical (esp. the missing index). I since then watched my repsonse times when editing, and there is an obvious match to the length of the old post. So it must have to do with deleting the old words from the search index. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted April 2, 2003 Author Share Posted April 2, 2003 I just made a simple test: I added a single word message and edited it again into a single word: 8 sec Then I eddited it into a few hundred words: 9 sec Finally I edited that back to another single word: 40 sec This would confirm that the delay comes from removing the words from the search index. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 But would the number of users posting, etc. also affect it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 ^ that edit took 15 seconds to go thru (one edit) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 ^ still 15 seconds (two edits) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 ^ 16 that time (three edits) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted April 2, 2003 Author Share Posted April 2, 2003 ^ 16 that time (three edits) Hm, I don't get what you are testing there. AFAIK the number of posts/member shouldn't slow it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Hi Albert! 1) Prune a large chunk of old messages 30% of the messages reside in the Off Topic board, most of which is probably not really worth to be archived forever... Greetings, Manuel I've archived most of the God? thread (although I need to archive the newer pages) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 ^ 16 that time (three edits) Hm, I don't get what you are testing there. AFAIK the number of posts/member shouldn't slow it down. No, I was editing the first post above (the one made at 09:54)...it only shows two edits because the first edit was made before I posted a followup that showed how long it took for it to complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted April 2, 2003 Share Posted April 2, 2003 Hi Albert! 1) Prune a large chunk of old messages 30% of the messages reside in the Off Topic board, most of which is probably not really worth to be archived forever... Greetings, Manuel I've archived most of the God? thread (although I need to archive the newer pages) You would j/k * dodges rotten egg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted April 6, 2003 Share Posted April 6, 2003 I just read through quite a few posts in various threads on the phpbb support forum and I'm going to try making these changes tonight to our server. If all goes well, it should significantly increase the speed of deleting and editing posts. I will be taking the forum down while doing this, and it'll probably take an hour or so. Will post another msg here after it's done. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted April 6, 2003 Share Posted April 6, 2003 Whatta guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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