codemonkey1980 Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) Again as a lurker I half expected this! When I posted the auction I wanted to stay neutral (even though I thought it looked dodgy to me), in my reply I even said as much. I wanted to try and stay respectful incase it turned out to be genuine. I can understand that you get people on here playing silly games and people may be cautious to a new member, but please I can only stress this is not the case. Atari 2600 was the first system I had back in the 80's as a kid and I am collecting the games from my youth (along with the other systems / games from this time etc). I search eBay UK daily for the items I'm after (including EU) and simply noticed this pop up. As I said I'm no expert, but I knew what Air Raid was and came here to see what people were saying about it. I thought it would make a good first post, fake or not, as I expected it would gather interest and make a good taking point. I simply collect the common games I used to own (and am not interested in other games physically), of which I nearly have the lot! In fact another reason I signed up was I that I had been thinking about purchasing a Harmony cart and participating in the High Score challenge you do (I'm a competent player but dw I won't be breaking anyone's records!). I have a solid eBay account of which I am a majority buyer (I sell once in a blue moon the things I no longer want), I have perhaps made purchases from members on here? I remember buying a nice boxed Defender & Missile Command (I think) from a shop 'World Of Atari' based in Germany if I remember correctly. And yes I am also from the UK and it is a big place funnily enough, to put it in perspective for US members, I don't even live in the same country as the listing location (I am based in the South Wales Valleys - 30ish miles from Cardiff). Edited June 29, 2015 by codemonkey1980 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Someone in the UK finding something on the UK Ebay doesn't seem all that unusual to me. The recent joining might be but I say give him the benefit of the doubt. We should probably avoid giving new members a hard time based on pure speculation. If he is the poster of the auction, he'll leave on his own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codemonkey1980 Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 Someone in the UK finding something on the UK Ebay doesn't seem all that unusual to me. The recent joining might be but I say give him the benefit of the doubt. We should probably avoid giving new members a hard time based on pure speculation. If he is the poster of the auction, he'll leave on his own. Thanks I would also point out the logic in making a scam auction (one that would gain massive interest in the community), and then pointing it out to the people who would easily be able to call BS if not geniune. I was under the assumption AR was an NTSC (extremely limited release), and wondered how this would have popped up here in the UK. I am sorry this has turned out to be fake and hope that it hasn't lead to members here making their minds up about me. Perhaps it wasn't a good choice of first post, but either way I'm glad to have flagged this and potentially helped to stop someone getting ripped off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I am sorry this has turned out to be fake and hope that it hasn't lead to members here making their minds up about me. Perhaps it wasn't a good choice of first post, but either way I'm glad to have flagged this and potentially helped to stop someone getting ripped off. You absolutely did the right thing. And I can certainly see something as big as a boxed Air Raid showing up on ebay to prompt a lurker to register. By the way, welcome to the forums. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 GBP 770.00, that went cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codemonkey1980 Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 Hope no one gets left out of pocket with this. As I said I still currently check eBay UK daily for 2600 (while I look out for the last few games I need etc.), and will make sure to flag anything else that may pop up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7800fan Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Cheap, probably just the suckers who didn't read any of the forum and realize the picture and description was recycled from years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Now what would be really funny is if this seller did indeed have a real copy for sale and somebody just won it for that cheap. The seller could possibly be one of those lazy sellers who finds a similar past auction and just steals the pics and descriptions for their own item. I see this all the time for run of the mill stuff....now doing it on an item of this magnitude would be downright stupid...but I don't put anything past an uneducated ebay seller these days haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I couldn't see the images in the original 2013 auction during the link, could other people still see them then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari181 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I couldn't see the images in the original 2013 auction during the link, could other people still see them then? I could not either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I asked the seller for other pictures and of course I was ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7800fan Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Now what would be really funny is if this seller did indeed have a real copy for sale and somebody just won it for that cheap. The seller could possibly be one of those lazy sellers who finds a similar past auction and just steals the pics and descriptions for their own item. I see this all the time for run of the mill stuff....now doing it on an item of this magnitude would be downright stupid...but I don't put anything past an uneducated ebay seller these days haha People generally can't search completed auctions more than a month old, you'd need a bookmark or have them in your purchase or selling history to access listing up to 3 years old. I doubt this seller simply "found" an old listing and copied over everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 People generally can't search completed auctions more than a month old, you'd need a bookmark or have them in your purchase or selling history to access listing up to 3 years old. I doubt this seller simply "found" an old listing and copied over everything. Right, but it is pretty easy to find old auctions with google for the last few years.And I assume this is what someone would do when there would obviously be no current ones on ebay. Don't get me wrong I lean heavily toward the listing being a sham, I just think it is a funny possibly that somebody may have won a real one for a song and a dance due to an inexperienced seller. And that would be a zero feedback seller thing to do....hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icemanxp300 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Right, but it is pretty easy to find old auctions with google for the last few years. And I assume this is what someone would do when there would obviously be no current ones on ebay. Don't get me wrong I lean heavily toward the listing being a sham, I just think it is a funny possibly that somebody may have won a real one for a song and a dance due to an inexperienced seller. And that would be a zero feedback seller thing to do....hehe No not happening. If this person was smart enough to "find" an old auction of an extremely rare game they would know the value and set a reserve or something. I'm not buying some inexperienced person did this and copied and pasted someone else's description for their auction. This is a scam and seller did not care if they got $100 or $15,000. Edited July 1, 2015 by icemanxp300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I viewed the auction and thought, "wow, that's low," but based on what others are saying, it could easily be fake. Somebody could have stumbled on a gold mine, but most likely it is fake. I guess the buyer took a gamble in the slim chance it was legit, that he/she could file a claim if it turned out to be a scam. They had better video the unboxing as the seller could easily put a slice of wood or cheap common CIB in the package as proof of shipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high voltage Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Any follow-up on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schitti Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) unsurprisingly the buyers feedback Edited July 7, 2015 by Schitti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tep392 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Doesn't Ebay hold on to the funds for some period with new sellers? The buyer should be protected by Ebay anyway, so he'll be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7800fan Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I believe it is still 21 days or proof of delivery. But eBay would have covered the buyer and if the seller was somehow able to clean the account, he would have collection agencies hounding him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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