Count9929A Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 On 1/1/2021 at 1:20 AM, mizapf said: Just for curiosity's sake - try playing it with the European version (50Hz) now. nice experiment for today, 2nd of january. To have a close reference, first I played 60hz, and did 87000, (MAME, 60hz) better than my highest score in the compo. Then I played the EU version, and after 4-5 games, I reached 93700 (MAME, 50hz). Well, topping my best NTSC score was harder than I thought. Indeed, the PAL version is a bit easier, but less easier than I expected. The main reason are the yellow TIEs. I hit them taking advantage of their entrance pattern, and apparently the change in speed coused me trouble. I lost many more ships than I use to loose in NTSC. On the other hand, white birds in PAL are clearly easier: in NTSC they are so fast that I can fight only avoiding their attacks and shooting randomly as fast as I can; in PAL their movement is perceptibly slower, so I manage to aim and shoot. For this latter reason, I have to say that I enjoyed the game more on the PAL version. Hopefully I will soon try playing on my real PAL TI, to see if it's different with a joystick and... the real iron sensation ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelpedant Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Well, @MarkSetGo , it looks like you're the winner by a pretty significant margin, with a score of 109,500 Do you have a game you'd like to pick for January? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSetGo Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Here is everyone's Astro Fighter score for December, 2020: MarkSetGo - 109,500 Count9929A - 74,700 PixelPedant - 64,300 Globeron - 57,600 Vorticon - 51,900 Old CS1 - 45,800 Sometimes99er - 36,600 JBlenkle - 36,400 This was a great pick and there was a good discussion about GROM / Assembly Lang / Cartridge distribution, etc. I'm impressed by the amount of knowledge in this group. Thank you everyone for participating! I'll post the January 2021 title by the end of the day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSetGo Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) <<Message Deleted>> Edited January 5, 2021 by MarkSetGo Deleted to avoid confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globeron Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, MarkSetGo said: I am choosing a game that I remember playing with neighbor friends. We bounced off the walls when any of us got to a new level. My neighbor had a different platform (I think it was Intellivision). The TI-version looks pretty good. Here is the BIN: min2049G.BIN 20.39 kB · 1 download Here is the EN manual: (Eng)-(Manual)-(Miner_2049er)-(1983)-(from_TigerVision)-(single_pages).pdf 9.34 MB · 2 downloads Put on your hard hats and claim the mines for 'yerself! Hi Mark, Not sure if we need to change to another game as in September 2015 we had a Miner2049'er competition (I love the game!), see link: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSetGo Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, globeron said: Hi Mark, Not sure if we need to change to another game as in September 2015 we had a Miner2049'er competition (I love the game!), see link: Good catch. I didn't think to check the thread. I'll pick something else. I'll use the 'search topic' feature to make sure my next pick was not already played. The first post in this topic has a hole for 2020. It might be nice to update that post as the official list of games that have already been picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSetGo Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 ** January 2021 ** I have chosen "Black Hole". It looks like a great game where most of your time is spent "timing your shot" blakholC.BIN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelpedant Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Ah, interesting. I'd barely played this in the last 30 years, since I always thought of it as a two player game. So I never really played it on my own, except to pop it in out of nostalgia. But there's nothing obliging one to play both ships. You can just ignore one. Pretty dumb it took me this long to consider that. Guess we'll see how far the game can be taken. Seems like we're still missing a manual scan for it. No recollection as to whether I ever had a manual for it. Those DataBiotics manuals often weren't much to look at, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSetGo Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Uh oh. I didn't realize it was two player only. Let's decide tomorrow if it works as 1 player. Sorry guys!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelpedant Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I think it does work single player. You just ignore the second player ship. Or you could try to play both at once, if you feel like being crazy But nothing obliges you to. The players each have a separate pool of lives. And actually, you can even play the one ship, then play the other ship when the first ship's lives run out. I'm just completely rethinking this game and its possibilities, now. Since I'd always thought of it as two-player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 6 hours ago, globeron said: Not sure if we need to change to another game as in September 2015 we had a Miner2049'er competition (I love the game!), see link: Hmm, if we're going for a new game every month, we'll have had them all soon. If I remember correctly, Centipede was twice (and I won both ? ). This brings back my idea of another competition (in parallel to this one) where we're playing the same games every year, like a championship. We could have different leagues like "classic pre-1982", "third-party", or "post-2000". You'll get a score for your result (winner = 12 points, follow-up = 10 points etc.) which you have to defend every year (like the Tennis ATP ranking). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globeron Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, mizapf said: Hmm, if we're going for a new game every month, we'll have had them all soon I think there are plenty of games, if we run out of "modules", or newly created modules, then we can start with the Extended Basic converted "modules" which runs much faster now. PS. I am still trying to beat my own Munch-Man score (and found back a card...with a score higher than in this competition) and trying to beat the highest score I saw in one of the older magazines (somewhere posted earlier in this forum). The card is from 1983-1985 period Edited January 5, 2021 by globeron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globeron Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 5 hours ago, pixelpedant said: Ah, interesting. I'd barely played this in the last 30 years, since I always thought of it as a two player game. So I never really played it on my own, except to pop it in out of nostalgia. But there's nothing obliging one to play both ships. You can just ignore one. Pretty dumb it took me this long to consider that. Guess we'll see how far the game can be taken. Seems like we're still missing a manual scan for it. No recollection as to whether I ever had a manual for it. Those DataBiotics manuals often weren't much to look at, though. I vaguely remember seeing a black and white kind of manual for it before. Seems we need a new skill to play with 2x hands in 1 go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globeron Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Real TI. Score 238,550 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globeron Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 The left player can shoot in 4x directions. The right player can only shoot left and right. Is that correct ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globeron Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 If you use Classic99 and set Joystick 1 and Joystick 2 to PC Keyboard. Then use Q and Y to shoot with either shooter and use the arrows to move them at the same time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ti99iuc Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, pixelpedant said: [...] Seems like we're still missing a manual scan for it. No recollection as to whether I ever had a manual for it. Those DataBiotics manuals often weren't much to look at, though. If you need, I've scanned it Edited January 5, 2021 by ti99iuc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Vorticon Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I wouldn't mind going for Jet Pac again. The first time around there was a bug in the scoring system and the alien movements. These got corrected, but only in the disk version as I'm still waiting on Willsy to come up with the cart (not a straightforward process for TurboForth). JetPac.dsk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelpedant Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 3 hours ago, ti99iuc said: If you need, I've scanned it Nice! For ease of access to those here, here is that scan: Black Hole.pdf And an image of the cart: Note as well that (as is often the case) there is a pre-DataBiotics disk version of the game, called Guardian, which looks like this on the title screen: Otherwise almost identical though, save for some very minor tweaks, it seems to me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSetGo Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Thanks for the manual! I tried to find one myself....but failed. It looks like Black Hole has "OPTION 1" (1 player) which is left-ship only (using either joystick). I don't see the ability to pick any option. Does "GUARDIAN" have an obvious way to choose option one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelpedant Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Except it doesn't seem like such an "option" actually exists. At least not in my DBT Black Hole cart. Manual says Quote Elther joystick 1 or joystick 2 may be used to control ship 1 or ship 2 But I'm pretty sure that's not true. And Joystick 1 always controls Ship 1, while Joystick 2 always controls Ship 2. I think DBT was a little mixed up about the details. It's worth noting that played as a single player game, it is possible to safely switch between the two ships at any time by pressing 'P' to give one ship "protection" (turns off hit detection) and begin playing the other one (which will lose protection as soon as you fire). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblenkle Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 So what the heck game are we playing? Miner 2049er, Black Hole or JetPac? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSetGo Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, jblenkle said: So what the heck game are we playing? Miner 2049er, Black Hole or JetPac? Hi guys....I wanted to apologize to everyone. I didn't realize the "no repeat" rule, so that eliminates "Miner 2049" and "JetPac". Black Hole has the 2-player issue. I will look for a new game right now....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSetGo Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 ***JANUARY 2021*** This game can be found under HomeBrew if you have FinalGrom. skyway.bin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblenkle Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Skyway - 3,609 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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