CatPix Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 And it's not even new. Since LCD TV come up with VGA and DVI/HMDI inpurs it's very possible to do that. This, and a Sidewinder pad. Even if the SteamPad replacing the mouse and ZQSD being more handy for many games, improving the experience even more.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 We will not sell the Retron 5 at our store, we tried selling 5 and all 5 got returned. We have had nothing but problems with this system, and add to that the crazy firmware update procedure and the terrible playing with filters for every game for 10 minutes to get a game to look similar bit not the same as an original. Ugh. The controller was made for people with lego or robot hands and felt super boxy. I think however the nails in the coffin for me were the games that work prefectly everyone every time in a real system or even clone only worked like 50% on the retron 5. The other was the copying of the game to ram every time you play a game and the game saves to the ram to be copied back to the cart later. We found it to be too complicated for the average family, but would be a good fit for someone who tinkers and has lots of time and patience when they want to play a game. I realize there are people who love the system and I am glad they had good experiences but for us it has been a sub standard experience. Of course these are just my opinions and I share them respectfully. I agree the system update process is rather clumsy. Basically you put an SD card in the system, request an update file, pull the SD card out, go to the Website and upload the update request file, then they give you the latest update, which you put back on the SD card. Once you put the SD card back in the RetroN and power it up, it automatically detects the file and asks if you want to update. It's the same process for other patches, like the quick boot patch. While that process could be better, it does work, and I would assume that most of the people bothering to buy a RetroN would have some level of sophistication, since it's a pretty hardcore thing to want to play old American and Japanese game cartridges. Like I said, the controller did take me some getting used to, but it's actually pretty high quality. It's micro-switch based and quite responsive. I think my initial overreaction to it was a learning curve. Now I really have no issue with using it as my primary controller. I really don't bother hooking the originals up anymore because of the whole convenience thing (and I'm spoiled by wireless controllers). In fact, this morning, I had some good sessions with Sqoon (Famicom, even the light worked on the cartridge) and Popeye (NES). I did try the NES version of Arkanoid with it as well, which, while it worked just fine, didn't work with the official spinner. With that said, the precision of the d-pad (it's remiscent of the one found on the Neo Geo Pocket), was actually pretty good considering I don't like playing those games with anything but a spinner (not even a mouse). As for the visuals, I just don't understand that. It has a fantastic picture. I just have everything set to original aspect ratio and no filtering other than adding in scanlines. It looks amazing on my Plasma across all systems. Interestingly, when I went to do the update today, there was a minor reference on the Website to a 2.0 version of the hardware, so it looks like they may be doing a hardware refresh. I'll be curious what form that takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I've directed a few people away from the R5 and toward the Super Retro Trio. It's half the price and twice as reliable. If you can live without HDMI, it's the system to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLic0ne t0aD Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I'd say avoid those clones at all costs and get a real NES.. they go for about $30-40 for the console, which is way cheaper than any clone. You'd be way better off with the real deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I'd say avoid those clones at all costs and get a real NES.. they go for about $30-40 for the console, which is way cheaper than any clone. You'd be way better off with the real deal. I agree, with the caveat that you'll have to know to put some TLC into it. Boiling the pins is a must, and outright replacing them isn't out of the question, plus disabling the 10NES chip, possibly adding a bypass. It's the best answer, but also the most labor-intensive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw57drvr Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 I agree 100% that the original NES is superior. However, as I have stated, space is the issue. Not the console. I own the consoles already. I have been doing some research and apparently there is a better choice than the Retron5. As someone stated above, the Super Retro Trio appears to be a superior machine when it comes to compatibility and reliability. It doesn't upscale, but I don't care about that. I think I will give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenegg Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I think you'll be happy with the SRT. The Retron 5 would be a decent system if it didn't have so much lag. For most of the systems it supports, you can minimize lag by using wired controllers, but unfortunately the SNES side is completely ruined with noticeable lag whether or not you use a wired controller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I think you'll be happy with the SRT. The Retron 5 would be a decent system if it didn't have so much lag. For most of the systems it supports, you can minimize lag by using wired controllers, but unfortunately the SNES side is completely ruined with noticeable lag whether or not you use a wired controller. I still have yet to experience this lag you reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw57drvr Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) This guys has a good demonstration of the lag. Go to about the 16 minute mark. Its a good hands on comparison video all together. Edited December 21, 2015 by vw57drvr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw57drvr Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 I can't find the Super Retro Trio. Where do you buy this thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I can't find the Super Retro Trio. Where do you buy this thing? Stone Age Gamer. If they're out of stock, Amazon. I highly reccomend SAG for the customer service, which is occasionally helpful if you get a dud clone (it happens). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw57drvr Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) I even had to search for it on SAG. Weird that it's not more readily available. Thanks for the info. At least they show it is n stock. Edited January 12, 2016 by vw57drvr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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