greatxerox Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Capture.PNG HELP contents thank you i look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) In the last few beta's Phaeron has added a first time setup option in tools to help a beginner set the emulator up easily, the latest beta's can be found in this thread not too far from this page. Basically you really need to get the OS and Basic roms to have the best compatibility although Phaerons built in OS is remarkably good. Read the Help file to see what differences the different models and memory settings Altirra emulates and why BASIC sometimes needs to be enabled. After that its as simple as setting up a joystick or using the keyboard as one and then finding disk images called atr's which you will find help with in the beginners thread which is 'sticky'ed' near the top of the main Atari 8 bit forum. The images Altirra uses mainly are Atr, Xex, CAS (cassette images), rom, Xfd, dcm and car files, these will boot automatically when using the 'File / Boot Image' option or simply dragging and dropping on the emulator window... To start you off I'd reccomend downloading these 4 disk images from this thread.. http://atariage.com/forums/topic/187482-4-atari-16mb-hard-disk-images-completed/?do=findComment&comment=2366659 There's hundreds of games ready to go amongst them, brilliant work by DrVenkman on these... That is a small sample of what is on the Atari, its always good to look for 'what is your favourite game' type threads to see what people like the most or I could plug the gamepack I'm involved in with the user Starwindz which has a huge selection of much loved games.. Link in my sig... Have fun, Paul.. Edited May 7, 2016 by Mclaneinc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeron Posted May 8, 2016 Author Share Posted May 8, 2016 Could also look at Atari's original user manuals. Update: http://www.virtualdub.org/beta/Altirra-2.80-test35.zip http://www.virtualdub.org/beta/Altirra-2.80-test35-src.zip ATRs with partial sectors are now padded to the next sector rather than truncating the partial sector. PC breakpoints are now bank sensitive. No access breakpoints above bank 0 yet -- this will require a rewrite of the high bank table handling in the MMU. Fixed assembler errors when trying to assemble branches above bank 0. Fixed read-modify-write instructions in 65C816 mode to properly do read/write/write in emulation mode. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatxerox Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Capture.PNG HELP contents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 (edited) Right click on the Help file, click on properties, in the General tab near the bottom will be a box called Unblock, tick it and click ok, now open the file again.. Also read my post and Phaerons a few posts before this... Edited May 8, 2016 by Mclaneinc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatxerox Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) Right click on the Help file, click on properties, in the General tab near the bottom will be a box called Unblock, tick it and click ok, now open the file again.. Also read my post and Phaerons a few posts before this... thank you for your kindness guys, as you can see, i don't have "unblock" option. i'm on Windows 10 x64 . Here it is all i get for Altirra thanks to you. Edited May 9, 2016 by greatxerox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 You need to read the Altirra.chm file that was installed with Altirra.exe. Some windows have stopped supporting the help file system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madi Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) thank you for your kindness guys, as you can see, i don't have "unblock" option. i'm on Windows 10 x64 . Here it is all i get for Altirra thanks to you. Do the same for "Altirra.chm" file, which is the help file. Just ensure that it is Unblocked. Edit: Sorry, didn't see rdea6 reply. Edited May 9, 2016 by Madi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatxerox Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) thank you . Finally i installed "extrachm" tool. i can read the .chm. i'll take slowly in order to understand how to use Altirra. Mclaneinc said there is an useful post for beginners in this topic. i have to find it. Edited May 9, 2016 by greatxerox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) Here http://atariage.com/forums/topic/246939-altirra-270-released/page-21?do=findComment&comment=3505602 I also found out that on Windows 10 chm files must be locally so not on Networked drives.. Edited May 9, 2016 by Mclaneinc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatxerox Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 thank you, i can launch games Altirra is really a great emulator, just perfect ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Phaeron has done an amazing job on Altirra and the Atari has some brilliant games...Hope you enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujidude Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) What is the size limit on a new .vhd file created from within Altirra? I tried 4096MB bit it did not work. I tried 2000MB and it went okay. Edited May 10, 2016 by fujidude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujidude Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) Running 2.80t35. Having issues with PCLink not working right. When trying to access PCL: a 138 device doesn't respond error will come up. When the PCLINK driver loads ( version 0.8 ) it sometimes reports that no server was found too. But even if it doesn't report that, the device will still error with 138. Also what seems to work (so far after quite a number of tries), is to use the COLD command of SDX. Upon the reboot that causes, PCLink then works correctly. Additionally, I've noticed that the SIO device ID that the PCLink driver will assign is consistently $6F when things are working correctly (such as after a COLD command), but is usually something else when not working. When not working it usually seems that $00 is assigned but I have seen $20 also I think. I'm not sure, but I thought I saw it as $6F when it didn't work too. ** Edit: the problem happens when rebooting the emulated machine from within the Ultimate BIOS. Only COLD seems to reliably allow PCLink to work. Edited May 10, 2016 by fujidude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeron Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 What is the size limit on a new .vhd file created from within Altirra? I tried 4096MB bit it did not work. I tried 2000MB and it went okay. 4095MB. I could have sworn I raised this. Oh well, I'll raise it again on the next build. In the meantime, you can use virtual machine software to create the larger VHD. Running 2.80t35. Having issues with PCLink not working right. When trying to access PCL: a 138 device doesn't respond error will come up. When the PCLINK driver loads ( version 0.8 ) it sometimes reports that no server was found too. But even if it doesn't report that, the device will still error with 138. Also what seems to work (so far after quite a number of tries), is to use the COLD command of SDX. Upon the reboot that causes, PCLink then works correctly. Additionally, I've noticed that the SIO device ID that the PCLink driver will assign is consistently $6F when things are working correctly (such as after a COLD command), but is usually something else when not working. When not working it usually seems that $00 is assigned but I have seen $20 also I think. I'm not sure, but I thought I saw it as $6F when it didn't work too. ** Edit: the problem happens when rebooting the emulated machine from within the Ultimate BIOS. Only COLD seems to reliably allow PCLink to work. Haven't been able to repro this myself, using SDX 4.47 + PCLINK.SYS 0.8. A couple of suggestions: remove the /S switch if you are using it to configure PCLINK.SYS for SIOV, and try disabling PBI support in the U1MB setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujidude Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 4095MB. I could have sworn I raised this. Oh well, I'll raise it again on the next build. In the meantime, you can use virtual machine software to create the larger VHD. Haven't been able to repro this myself, using SDX 4.47 + PCLINK.SYS 0.8. A couple of suggestions: remove the /S switch if you are using it to configure PCLINK.SYS for SIOV, and try disabling PBI support in the U1MB setup. I had already removed the /S from it. If I disable PBI BIOS with the U1MB BIOS, then I can't use the HDD. Are you saying that PCLink is mutually exclusive to PBI BIOS being enabled? If so, how come it always used to work, and still does if issuing a COLD command 1st? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeron Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 I had already removed the /S from it. If I disable PBI BIOS with the U1MB BIOS, then I can't use the HDD. Are you saying that PCLink is mutually exclusive to PBI BIOS being enabled? If so, how come it always used to work, and still does if issuing a COLD command 1st? No, I'm saying temporarily disable it to see if it changes behavior since it hooks into the SIOV chain. How/why/what to do follows afterward if we get a difference. I have no idea why you're seeing the behavior you are, so we need clues first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 I'm using PCLink with the U1MB PBI without issues, so problem must be elsewhere. Will try cold booting from the BIOS later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Also what seems to work (so far after quite a number of tries), is to use the COLD command of SDX. Upon the reboot that causes, PCLink then works correctly. Additionally, I've noticed that the SIO device ID that the PCLink driver will assign is consistently $6F when things are working correctly (such as after a COLD command), but is usually something else when not working. When not working it usually seems that $00 is assigned but I have seen $20 also I think. I'm not sure, but I thought I saw it as $6F when it didn't work too. ** Edit: the problem happens when rebooting the emulated machine from within the Ultimate BIOS. Only COLD seems to reliably allow PCLink to work. No problems cold booting from the U1MB BIOS: PCLink starts up fine. Tried 65C816 mode plus various SIO acceleration settings without issue. Even tried setting a conflicting drive assignment on the U1MB PBI and the virtual folder (i.e. PCLink server). PCLink still worked. Can you post your CONFIG.SYS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujidude Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 No, I'm saying temporarily disable it to see if it changes behavior since it hooks into the SIOV chain. How/why/what to do follows afterward if we get a difference. I have no idea why you're seeing the behavior you are, so we need clues first. Greetings. Okay, I transfered my bootup config from the HDD to a big floppy. I then disabled the PBI BIOS from within U1MB BIOS as you said. Everything works normally that way. So whatever you are thinking it seems you might be on the right track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeron Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 How many physical drives + PBI BIOS drives do you have? I thought there was some internal limit within SDX that could be exceeded if you either had too many total drives or total devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 SDX supports up to fifteen drives ($1 to $F in the low nybble of Device), and (IIRC) eight device IDs in the upper nybble. The SDX SIO table has room for four entries, IIRC, (SIO.SYS, PCLINK.SYS, SIDE.SYS, etc), so if the PCLINK driver fails to install, it's likely that the SIO table is full (this is why I asked for a look at his CONFIG.SYS). The SIO table is completely separate from any PBI devices, of course. If there's a conflicting unit number (i.e. a PBI partition and a PCLink drive both on drive 2, for instance), the PCL: device will still be accessible (since it's on a different SIO device ID which the PBI BIOS will ignore). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujidude Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) Hi. My drive layout is as follows: A: through G: = floppy drives H: = RAMdisk I: through O: = APT HDD partitions I have tried with removing the last drive (O:) as well with identical results. Edited May 12, 2016 by fujidude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I can only say that PCLINK works very well here either on the real Atari + real server, or on the emulated Atari + emulated server combo. I vaguely remember that enabling various SIO acceleration options (under System->Acceleration) is asking for weird problems, so I always start off from disabling all that. Once this is eliminated, I am clueless. For something completely different: 1) in the debugger: ba r seems to react also on writes. ba r $0600, later POKE $0600,0 from the SDX prompt, hit on STA (BUFADR),Y [$00:0600]. Same reaction in BASIC on POKE 1536,0. 2) the audio monitor: perhaps I am interpreting its display incorrectly, but does it show the state of the second Pokey when the stereo is enabled? A little description would be helpful, but I was unable to find it in the help file (a search for /Audio monitor/ returns nothing). 3) System->Audio menu: one can enable and disable separate audio channels, but only 1-4. When the stereo is enabled, there is 8 channels, so perhaps it would be useful to offer an option to disable/enable all of them separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Re the audio monitor: I understand now where the problem was: when the SlighSID is enabled, the Audio monitor does not display the status of the first Pokey, but the status of the SlightSID instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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