mantadoc Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Here's the first one , what do you have ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Cool Editor / Assembler or E/A... I've never seen it called Edi Ass before. It makes me think of... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift838 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) This modded cartridge I used extensively before XB 2.7 suite came out. It has : Triton Super Extended Basic Editor Assembler TI Writer Disk Manger 3.0 One of the main things I really liked about this version of XB was the 'TRACE' command. It had the ability to open a log file on a diskette and would log every line that it executed. once errored out all you had to do was issue one last 'Print #' file/io command to dump the last peice and close the file. Then you could view it. This cartridge helped me a great bit when debugging XB code for my BBS, to at least see what line it was erroring on. Edited December 22, 2015 by Cschneider 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 This modded cartridge I used extensively before XB 2.7 suite came out. It has : Triton Super Extended Basic Editor Assembler TI Writer Disk Manger 3.0 Cool stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Here´s Grom-0 .... Edited December 22, 2015 by mantadoc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jedimatt42 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 So, the SUPER-SPEZIAL exposed GROM images in an eprom as GROM? That's very cool. It doesn't look like there are any custom chips on it. Is that the nutshell version of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Yes it worked with an eprom in the empty socket , i tried with the demo from sometimes 99 " Anticipation " Edited December 22, 2015 by mantadoc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 The four 74LS161 chips do the addressing for the GROM simulation on that board. It was designed by Heiner Martin and people in Germany did all kinds of interesting things with it, as we can see from what was done with this pair of boards Mantadoc has. TI actually had a published specification for boards like this, called an EGROM cartridge, which is where the idea for these boards came from. The EGROM boards were often used in prototype cartridges and in some low volume production cartridges as well (Advertizer/Info Spot is one I can think of that used them). The UberGROM gets rid of the discrete logic and pulls all of the GROM simulation into a single chip--and has slots for up to 15 GROMs on up to 15 GROM bases. You can put up to five of the GROMs on each base, but using it that way only lets you simulate three five-GROM cartridges simultaneously (although a host of smaller cartridges can also be stuffed in there by putting each one on a different base (until you've used all of the 15 available GROM slots, anyway)). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed in SoDak Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) This modded cartridge I used extensively before XB 2.7 suite came out. It has : Triton Super Extended Basic Editor Assembler TI Writer Disk Manger 3.0 One of the main things I really liked about this version of XB was the 'TRACE' command.... I used that sometimes as well. I'd add a temporary line as a hook to begin the trace closer to the area I was working on. Or add a way to adjust the variables before entering that segment and maybe pop them up onscreen. I also displayed TRACE to the screen instead of file or printer, but onscreen was hard to follow and blew the display, but helped track some wayward GOTO or to find where keypresses sent you. With triple-nested loops, using both screen-specific and global defaults, plus user-defined options or input, how you ended up at the error point from where you began is sometimes a mystery. Especially on the 50th revision/expansion of my spaghetti code! My best TI homebrew hardware project, other than cobbling old PC stuff onto it or kludged power supplies and cables, was to add a "fourth" drive to the stock TI by wiring a DPDT switch on the power lines to choose between Drive 3a or 3b. That sort of mod could be carried on for as many drives as you wished to extend a data cable plus switchable power to any of the 3 original drive designations. Just make sure you remember or indicate with power LEDS which drive you're currently connected to, otherwise mischief and mayhem will surely result! Edited December 23, 2015 by Ed in SoDak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RXB Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) The Winfried Winkler Editor Assembler Cartridge was the GRAM KRACKER version of modifications of the EA Cart. Later versions put the disk Editor and Assembler into separate GROM chips like the GRAM KRACKER versions did. I combined everything into one cart with REA 2012 that has Editor Assembler and GPL Assembler and Editor all in GROMs. Edited December 23, 2015 by RXB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HackMac Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Was ist am "Super-Spezial E/A" so super und spezial? Ich kenne diese Version des Editor Assembler Modules nicht. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Ich glaube, Super Spezial spricht von das Modul Platine, nicht von die Programm-Inhalt. Winfried hat das EA Modul etwas umgeschrieben und erweitert. I'm pretty sure that Super Spezial is what the builder called the module board--and it had nothing to do with the program contents. Winfried did some extension and other rewrites in the EA module. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HackMac Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Ok, thanks. I thought it was an other version of an Editor/Assembler with different features... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Edited December 23, 2015 by mantadoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Also this : Edited December 23, 2015 by mantadoc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Which version is the German LOGO GROM? I have the original cartridge for LOGO 1.1 German, and I've seen the GROM files for the LOGO II German (I may even have them here somewhere, although I've never seen a physical copy of the original German LOGO II cartridge). I have LOGO in several target languages (German, Dutch, Italian, English, and Spanish), and I'm still trying to get one of the ones in French. There may be others, as the language stubs in the first GROM support several more (I suspect Danish and Swedish as most likely). I hope to eventually find a set of the console manuals in Danish and Swedish as well, since I don't have those yet, either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Seeing that monster-sized cartridge makes me appreciate the Uber Cart so much more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 This is German version 1,1 , are there 2 disk following TI LOGO in package ? I only have 1 origninal disk , it searching for a disk file Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 Code generator , hmm it remove my gram card from the screen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Another variant of the Editor Assembler, this time with GRAM on it, which may be why your GRAM card disappeared from the screen, as it is probably set to the same GROM base. The more I look at these, the more I remember. Herr Ziegler used to show up at the TI Treff regularly up until the early nineties. I remember seeing this hardware before. I seem to remember that the version of the EA with the 1986 copyright was a variant that floated around as a module GRAM file called EA6. I think it may have originated in Austria (or possibly Munich, as both groups were doing things with the EA back then). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 ok nice , hmm it´s exiting stuff , do you know his first name ? want to try searching the internet for stuff about him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share Posted December 24, 2015 Fig Forth year 1986 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrax27407 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 I have the Fig Forth EPROM code and it runs fine from one of the Guidry carts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HackMac Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 It is possible to share the (G)ROM images with us? For example the cartridge with the "Code Generator" is interesting. A good place for the images is in our (pinned) ".BIN Repository" or if it is possible, better the well-known, mostly used and public WHTech FTP server. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantadoc Posted December 25, 2015 Author Share Posted December 25, 2015 Good idea , for me no problem.... but think i have to ask R.Ziegler first before , anyone who have an email or something to get in contact with him ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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